Carl lives pretty close to me and is still racing with his son and grandson. As a matter of fact I think they reached the final round with his grandson's blown dragster last week at the PDRA race. I have a list that is pretty accurate that list Ray Christian as receiving a new Cuda from the Hurst batch in 68. I'll have to see if I can find the dealer.. I knew him fairly well and he raced more than one Hemi Cuda.