Pads are included. With a price of $1115 shipped, including the tubular upper control arms and new lower ball joints, I'd say not bad for a "all in one box" kit.

WhT the heck. I'll order it up and give it a shot.

Being a slant 6 car that my wife will be driving, an 8-3/4" would be overkill for sure. 8-1/4 is overkill, but, I'll take what I can find.

Laine