Yea I saw those. Newcomb was selling them on the sly to avoid legal issues because he was stamping them with HURST without permission. I had one in my hands back when I was selling the stainless steel ones, but even they had some minor differences I can spot and it wasn't just the grips. I haven't seen one in a while but they were way closer to the current Hurst (made for Hurst by gunslinger) versions though.