Rock I've always known we were (are) kindred spirits. I never forgot way back when the one guy got offended at you calling you kids kids. I used to be a goat farmer & a "kid" is a young goat & I wanted to tell him that my kids are my goats & my goats were my kids & I wanted to post that so bad (since it was true) but that would only have aggravated him (further) which is not what what I generally like to do unless I'm the person being messed with. I gotta go get some breakfast (& some coffee)