i have ladders under my cuda but have been thinking about maybe next year setting it up for SS. i was thinking that insted of notching the frame just weld the front shackle box below the frame for a long low IC. i think you would have to notch the whole damn frame out if you put it up in the frame. But this is just a thought in my head and dont know how well it would work or how low it would hang especially with a caltrac bar even lower