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Re: Cranks but doesn't fire! [Re: B300 VanDanage] #3233422
05/17/24 08:29 PM
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There are 12 volt coils, and there are 12 volt coils.

Coils normally marked as 12 volt are made to have a resistor in front of them. Other 12 volt coils have the resistor built into the coil.

Rambler was one of the few that used a coil that had the resistor built in.


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Re: Cranks but doesn't fire! [Re: John Brown] #3233430
05/17/24 09:32 PM
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glad you got it up and running.

Re: Cranks but doesn't fire! [Re: Andrewh] #3233455
05/18/24 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Andrewh
glad you got it up and running.


Thanks! Not sure if you've been keeping up with the old thread I started a couple of months ago about the overcharging issue but after installing the new coil the voltage has dropped down to normal levels and it's not overcharging anymore!!!! I'm talking between 13.2 - 14.2 volts from idle to acceleration!!!!
Could it be the coil or a connection on the coil was the issue and the reason it was overcharging??? I don't think it's a coincidence but maybe it is... shruggy

Re: Cranks but doesn't fire! [Re: B300 VanDanage] #3233481
05/18/24 08:35 AM
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not likely.
it is down stream of the splice that supplies power to the vr sensing line.
more likely some wiring you messed with, a connector or whatever got connected better.
till you find it, I would continue the bypass, because a good bounce, or road vibration could make it go bad again, and you don't want to see a spike while driving.
had one go out like that while driving and it vaporized 2 inches of copper and about 5 inches of insulation under the dash. showed something crazy like 100 volts output.

Re: Cranks but doesn't fire! [Re: Andrewh] #3233540
05/18/24 01:01 PM
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"had one go out like that while driving and it vaporized 2 inches of copper and about 5 inches of insulation under the dash. showed something crazy like 100 volts output."


and i'll just kinda' guess all the "magic smoke" escaped, causing a great deal of consternation.............. panic biggrin
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Re: Cranks but doesn't fire! [Re: B300 VanDanage] #3233627
05/18/24 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by B300 VanDanage
Originally Posted by Andrewh
glad you got it up and running.


Thanks! Not sure if you've been keeping up with the old thread I started a couple of months ago about the overcharging issue but after installing the new coil the voltage has dropped down to normal levels and it's not overcharging anymore!!!! I'm talking between 13.2 - 14.2 volts from idle to acceleration!!!!
Could it be the coil or a connection on the coil was the issue and the reason it was overcharging??? I don't think it's a coincidence but maybe it is... shruggy


have you Ohmed out the coil? possible internal short pulling the Voltage down shruggy
You could always reinstall to see if the issue recurs shruggy But sometimes at the end of a long journey it's best to leave things alone whistling beer

Re: Cranks but doesn't fire! [Re: moparx] #3233634
05/19/24 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by moparx
"had one go out like that while driving and it vaporized 2 inches of copper and about 5 inches of insulation under the dash. showed something crazy like 100 volts output."


and i'll just kinda' guess all the "magic smoke" escaped, causing a great deal of consternation.............. panic biggrin
beer

the smoke pouring out from under the dash at 55 with all the windows down was quite impressive, I will say.
I don't think I have ever pulled over that fast before and jumped out of a car.

the fact it still was running and everything seemed to be working was amazing.
I was near some small town in podunk and a garage was on main street and they offered to take a look, since the car wasn't on fire. lol.

Re: Cranks but doesn't fire! [Re: Andrewh] #3233685
05/19/24 11:33 AM
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i'll bet the guy that come up with the invention to "re-install magic smoke" will make a fortune ! boogie laugh2
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Re: Cranks but doesn't fire! [Re: moparx] #3233740
05/19/24 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by moparx
i'll bet the guy that come up with the invention to "re-install magic smoke" will make a fortune ! boogie laugh2
beer


here ya go, Do be aware there are different sizes depending on the amount needed. The first pic shows the injector kit . Also there are newer versions that are claimed not to be as good as the original. Last verify country of origin as there are some knockoffs that may work or require a complete rewire after using BTDT ๐Ÿงจ๐ŸŽ†๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ฅ๐Ÿ’ฅ๐Ÿ‘Ž๐Ÿป๐Ÿคซ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿš€ beer




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Re: Cranks but doesn't fire! [Re: TJP] #3233765
05/19/24 04:46 PM
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No good.
These are for positive earth systems.

Re: Cranks but doesn't fire! [Re: A990] #3233835
05/19/24 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by A990
No good.
These are for positive earth systems.


Perfectly fine if you turn the container upside down before injecting the smoke. Doing so reverses the electrons polarity ๐Ÿคซ๐Ÿคฃ

Re: Cranks but doesn't fire! [Re: TJP] #3233921
05/20/24 12:27 PM
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i always knew the "magic smoke" solution was out there, but i have never seen the tool used to install it. biggrin
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