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4 trim rings for $7000

Posted By: Mr PotatoHead

4 trim rings for $7000 - 08/25/23 03:27 AM

OOK... Joke ad or ???? what gives nos trim rings

4 trim rings, asking price 7k AND $350 shipping.

Funny thing is the reason for selling posted in ad might be the the same reason he wont get 7k shruggy

https://www.ebay.com/itm/235154086535?
Posted By: Jer

Re: 4 trim rings for $7000 - 08/25/23 05:00 AM

That's a lotta coin for repros. Being 1985, wouldn't these be the 6.5" version?
Posted By: BloFish

Re: 4 trim rings for $7000 - 08/25/23 05:16 AM

He has nothing else for sale, too bad he could retire at the end of the year. laugh2
Posted By: moparmike1

Re: 4 trim rings for $7000 - 08/25/23 11:11 AM

Originally Posted by Jer
Being 1985, wouldn't these be the 6.5" version?


There's a long story behind these trim rings, between the original parts produced in the 70s and the repros produced in the 2000s. Here's a good thread on this:

https://board.moparts.org/ubbthread...read/Board/1/main/33330/type/thread.html

Odds are, what the seller has listed are the 6.5" version but, the only way to know for certain is to have the person measure the depth.

Regardless, you're right, that's a lot a money.

Mike.
Posted By: 69x

Re: 4 trim rings for $7000 - 08/25/23 12:38 PM

At first I thought they must be for the 69 only 14 inch brushed rings as they are very rare nos and if these were those that would be allot, but 7K for these? good luck with that
Posted By: Mr PotatoHead

Re: 4 trim rings for $7000 - 08/25/23 04:31 PM

Thanks for the informative link. Always good to learn.

I was just a bit shocked at the 7k asking price as ive never seen anything close to that.
Posted By: Alaskan_TA

Re: 4 trim rings for $7000 - 08/25/23 04:39 PM

When I saw the seller's user name, it all made sense. laugh2
Posted By: TJP

Re: 4 trim rings for $7000 - 08/25/23 04:57 PM

Originally Posted by moparmike1
Originally Posted by Jer
Being 1985, wouldn't these be the 6.5" version?


There's a long story behind these trim rings, between the original parts produced in the 70s and the repros produced in the 2000s. Here's a good thread on this:

https://board.moparts.org/ubbthread...read/Board/1/main/33330/type/thread.html

Odds are, what the seller has listed are the 6.5" version but, the only way to know for certain is to have the person measure the depth.

Regardless, you're right, that's a lot a money.

Mike.

In that Thread a comment by snoopy caught my attention
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Back in the early 70's, when Chrysler released their 15x6.5" Rallye wheels, they decided to make the trim rings fit the new 15x6.5" Rallye wheels. So they modified the dies that were used to make the 15x7" rings. For some reason, known only to Chrysler, they used the same part numbers that were used for the original 15x7" rings. This came back to bite them on the butt when they decided to reproduce the original 15x7" trim rings. After they made a batch of the new rings, they discovered that they had reproduced the 15x6.5" trim rings instead of the 15x7".


GM did the same thing with the PB, master assemblies on the C3 corvettes about 1972 changing the length of the MC pushrod and depth of the bore in the MC piston. Because it was only sold as 1 part number they did not change it. 40 years later I'm chasing my tail because of a low but effective brake pedal. Finally found the above information on the Corvette Forum posted by an old guy like I am now. I had a short Pushrod booster with a deep bore master. In addition, the replacement/ rebuilders were unaware of the above as well so it was a roll of the dice when replacing either 1 of the two components. IE: Master cyl. or Booster. If you did them as an assembly no problem.
That fiasco cost me about 30-40 hours. I should mention I was known in my engineering capacities for being a problem because I would raise hell insisting on 100% backwards compatibility or a NEW part # when a change was made
back on subject beer
Posted By: Mr PotatoHead

Re: 4 trim rings for $7000 - 08/25/23 05:24 PM

Was that the semi crazy guy with the red hemi challenger?


Originally Posted by Alaskan_TA
When I saw the seller's user name, it all made sense. laugh2
Posted By: mccannix

Re: 4 trim rings for $7000 - 08/25/23 06:52 PM

Plenty of threads on plenty of forums over the years on these
The tag with part number, date and year pretty much tell the tale as per the old thread.
A friend has 4 of these NOS as well...same packaging, same year date.
We've had them out of the wrapper plenty times..they are the 6.5 version.
Poster had his out of the packaging for pictures.......
why not do a tape measure picture like this proving the 15x7 claim.
15x7 ring on left, 15x6.5 ring on right

Attached picture trimringdiffs.jpg
Posted By: Dartman440

Re: 4 trim rings for $7000 - 08/25/23 09:47 PM

He is in for a long let down these are the 6.5 polished 2.75 inches. The hard to find Original ones are brushed and are 3" ending with a #22 part number
Posted By: moparmike1

Re: 4 trim rings for $7000 - 08/26/23 11:47 AM

I asked the seller to measure the height and he responded with:

Just a hair under 3 inches. Here is a picture. Take care, Clint H.

Attached picture Trim Ring.jpg
Posted By: Alaskan_TA

Re: 4 trim rings for $7000 - 08/26/23 12:02 PM

Look at where the end of the tape is though, it is 1/4" or so past the edge of the ring.

Clint H. needs to work on his illusion skills. work

Attached picture clint tape.jpg
Posted By: Droop69

Re: 4 trim rings for $7000 - 08/26/23 12:04 PM

I saw these on CL a few weeks ago I think they may be correct. No idea on price though? Never asked...

https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/wsh/pts/d/saint-louis-mostly-mopar-some-fordamc/7651604662.html
Posted By: moparmike1

Re: 4 trim rings for $7000 - 08/26/23 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by Alaskan_TA
Look at where the end of the tape is though, it is 1/4" or so past the edge of the ring.

Clint H. needs to work on his illusion skills. work


Something's definitely "up" with the seller. This is his response in My Messages, followed by my trying to answer back. I was just going to say thank you.

Attached picture Answer.jpg
Attached picture Response.jpg
Posted By: mccannix

Re: 4 trim rings for $7000 - 08/26/23 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by Droop69
I saw these on CL a few weeks ago I think they may be correct. No idea on price though? Never asked...

https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/wsh/pts/d/saint-louis-mostly-mopar-some-fordamc/7651604662.html

Tom
Those appear to be different trim rings, notice the old weathered part numbered paper tags , which are the correct ones used on 15x7 ring.
Posters pics show new shiny later tags.
You can never get a true measurement the way the poster showed, if tape measure angles in following the trim ring taper in, it can give it more.
Trim ring other way around, flat surface, tape straight up like this.


Attached picture trimdiffs.jpg
Posted By: TJP

Re: 4 trim rings for $7000 - 08/27/23 03:04 AM

Originally Posted by mccannix
Originally Posted by Droop69
I saw these on CL a few weeks ago I think they may be correct. No idea on price though? Never asked...

https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/wsh/pts/d/saint-louis-mostly-mopar-some-fordamc/7651604662.html

Tom
Those appear to be different trim rings, notice the old weathered part numbered paper tags , which are the correct ones used on 15x7 ring.
Posters pics show new shiny later tags.
You can never get a true measurement the way the poster showed, if tape measure angles in following the trim ring taper in, it can give it more.
Trim ring other way around, flat surface, tape straight up like this.


You forgot the "NOTICE" referring to the C/L ad wink LOL
Posted By: jeff968

Re: 4 trim rings for $7000 - 08/27/23 03:31 AM

Back in the 1979-1984 I was spending my entire paycheck buying parts for my Challengers. One of those parts were new 15" trim rings. But something crazy was happening. I would order 4 of them and when they came in 2 might fit and 2 had the gap. The difference was the box. If it had the blue and white Chrysler parts sticker on it, it was a 15x7. If it had the red, white and blue mopar sticker it was a 15x6.5. It didn't take long to figure out that Chrysler had reused the part numbers on the 15x6.5 trim ring so it was a crap shoot on whether I got the correct ones or not. I sent many back. Then one day I was picking up my parts at the dealer and a zone rep just happened to be there. In my stash of new parts were some new trim rings and with the same issue. The parts manager, who I had become great friends with, called the rep over to show him what was going on and I told him the problem. He apologized for the issues and then invited me up to the Tappan NY parts warehouse to get the correct rings! I drove up with my girlfriend and my Challenger and met him. We walked into the warehouse and it was like the last scene of Indiana jones with many rows of bins stacked 5 high. I got into a golf cart and we proceeded to drive over to the correct bin. There were hundreds of trim ring boxes but he picked out the last 12 correct blue/white label boxes and then sent them to my dealer. Myself and 2 buddies (with a T/A and an AAR) got those last sets. I can't speak for the other warehouses but back in the day, I got the last 12 out of Tappan NY. And they were in boxes, not vacuum wrapped. They also were a lot cheaper then $7k!
Posted By: moparmike1

Re: 4 trim rings for $7000 - 08/27/23 12:13 PM

Looks like the seller figured out he has the 6.5 version. He sent me this message this morning, and lowered his price to $3,000.

They are 2 3/4 inches in depth. I lowered my price significantly. Sorry for any confusion. Take care!
Posted By: bee1971

Re: 4 trim rings for $7000 - 08/27/23 12:40 PM

Stupid question

So is $3,000 a fair price ? From $7,000 YIKES - Sounds ridiculous to me ON BOTH prices as I have not shopped for trim rings in probably over 20 years

No one makes reproduction trim rings anymore ? Wheel Vintiques or ?

Anyone make a decent 1971 Brushed Trim Ring for the 15 x 7 / 15 x 8 Reproduction Rallies
Posted By: moparmike1

Re: 4 trim rings for $7000 - 08/27/23 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by bee1971
Stupid question

So is $3,000 a fair price ? From $7,000 YIKES - Sounds ridiculous to me ON BOTH prices as I have not shopped for trim rings in probably over 20 years

No one makes reproduction trim rings anymore ? Wheel Vintiques or ?

Anyone make a decent 1971 Brushed Trim Ring for the 15 x 7 / 15 x 8 Reproduction Rallies





Not a stupid question.

Either price is ridiculous.

Wheel Vintiques does list 15" trim rings, both polished and brushed, but they can be spotted from the OEM trim rings, i.e. the outer edge is different in how the "creases" are.

https://www.wheelvintiques.com/cata...-chrysler-polished-finish/category/1211/

https://www.wheelvintiques.com/cata...e-chrysler-brushed-finish/category/1211/

Are the differences worth spending the extra? Not to me but, maybe to someone else.

Mike.
Posted By: stickman

Re: 4 trim rings for $7000 - 08/27/23 02:26 PM

Well I have a set of those that was still in the packages. Put them on my car about 6 months ago. shruggy
Posted By: Mr PotatoHead

Re: 4 trim rings for $7000 - 08/27/23 03:52 PM

So no suckers took the bait at 7k and now at 3k. Hmmm... Call me hard headed but even if I needed them I could not buy from this seller if they were $500. Not into games and bs from ebay con men.

Shipping is now $250 vs $350.... maybe I should. NOT!
Posted By: TJP

Re: 4 trim rings for $7000 - 08/27/23 05:50 PM

Originally Posted by Mr PotatoHead
So no suckers took the bait at 7k and now at 3k. Hmmm... Call me hard headed but even if I needed them I could not buy from this seller if they were $500. Not into games and bs from ebay con men.

Shipping is now $250 vs $350.... maybe I should. NOT!
up beer
Posted By: Alaskan_TA

Re: 4 trim rings for $7000 - 08/27/23 06:21 PM

Originally Posted by bee1971
So is $3,000 a fair price ?


I bought a NOS set at Carlisle for 6.5" Rallyes I have, I paid $250.00 for the set.
Posted By: bee1971

Re: 4 trim rings for $7000 - 08/28/23 01:03 PM

Thanx for all the info

Brushed and polished have been on back order apparently for some time now

Brushed have terrible reviews on most sites


OER sells a polished set of four on there website

Was doing a little research on taking polished trim rings and scotchbrite and


Anyways , Carlisle has always been hit or miss for me walking thru all those millions of vendors

Appreciate it
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