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F.A.S.T. question #1189190
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not sure where this goes or wwhy I even thought of it buttttt, since you could get a Hemi 4 door Coronet or belvedere would that make a "clone" leagle for FAST?

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Re: F.A.S.T. question [Re: Mr.Yuck] #1189191
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I would say yes. Why you got one ? Ron

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I would say yes. Why you got one ? Ron




no but it would be way cheaper to find a nice solid 4 door than a 2 door. The cost offset one could build a Hemi and have a nice sleeper right? I mean the only upgrade from the DeLuxe trim would be two 29.99 emblems, and the Hemi of course.

Re: F.A.S.T. question [Re: Mr.Yuck] #1189193
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Re: F.A.S.T. question [Re: Mr.Yuck] #1189194
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100% legal...

And the combination would be very cool. I often thought of going this route as I have a primo 66 Coronet 4 door that I used for parts for my 66 Hemi 500. Now, not sure what to do with the body, I thought of building it up for FAST. The weight wouldnt be the problem, as the 4 door cars are about the same size and weight as the 2 door cars in these models. I believe the wheelbase is the same.

This particular car probably wouldn't be the best choice if you really wanted to build a "max effort" entry because the aerodynamics suck and more importantly it has no fresh air hood and the 14" narrow tire is a negative as well. But the rear overhang is good and the Hemi is such a good package for FAST(in fact it's probably the most lethal-maybe the L88 Vette is better??).

So even if it wasn't the best choice of car, with a sorted out FAST hemi, you would be able to very competitive with it!

MB

Re: F.A.S.T. question [Re: domingo] #1189195
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not really.
Like Mike said the draw backs would be tire and no fresh air. You can take lots of weight off the car. And it would be very cool to see a 4 door dodge run against a aluminum blcok vette and hold it's own. I bet you could get a base line 4 door lighter than a 69-70 2 door b-body


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not really.
Like Mike said the draw backs would be tire and no fresh air. You can take lots of weight off the car. And it would be very cool to see a 4 door dodge run against a aluminum headed vette and hold it's own. I bet you could get a base line 4 door lighter than a 69-70 2 door b-body




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not really.
Like Mike said the draw backs would be tire and no fresh air. You can take lots of weight off the car. And it would be very cool to see a 4 door dodge run against a aluminum blcok vette and hold it's own. I bet you could get a base line 4 door lighter than a 69-70 2 door b-body




The tire would be a drawback, but one thing the Hemi has is its a package that makes horsepower up top and not necessarily a torque monster-which is the MAIN reason its so deadly for FAST. That being said, Ed Cook managed to put down a 1.52 60' on G70-14's and NO TRACTION device, with the 3800 lb '63 MW Plymouth. And that motor made 778 lb/ft of torque! It can be done.

MB

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That being said, Ed Cook managed to put down a 1.52 60' on G70-14's and NO TRACTION device, with the 3800 lb '63 MW Plymouth. And that motor made 778 lb/ft of torque! It can be done.

MB




So what is done or can be done to said car to get it to 60 ft like that?

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Those cars dodn't have a 15" option?????

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That being said, Ed Cook managed to put down a 1.52 60' on G70-14's and NO TRACTION device, with the 3800 lb '63 MW Plymouth. And that motor made 778 lb/ft of torque! It can be done.

MB




So what is done or can be done to said car to get it to 60 ft like that?




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That being said, Ed Cook managed to put down a 1.52 60' on G70-14's and NO TRACTION device, with the 3800 lb '63 MW Plymouth. And that motor made 778 lb/ft of torque! It can be done.

MB




So what is done or can be done to said car to get it to 60 ft like that?




Frankly, not a whole lot..

There are some that are using timing delays to pull some power out so that they dont hit the tires too hard, but I know for a fact that Ed(and most of the others) don't use it. You can't miss the ones that do. they are the ones popping and farting at the tree.

It all comes down to driving skills and practice.

MB

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Those cars dodn't have a 15" option?????




Nope.

Re: F.A.S.T. question [Re: HPMike] #1189203
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0% legal though as the rules clearly say no 4 doors.


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0% legal though as the rules clearly say no 4 doors.




Sorry Dave, you are incorrect...

This was brought up years ago and its 100% legal. I dont know what rules you are reading, but there is nothing in the FAST rules that excludes 4 door vehicles. Please cut and paste the "rule" that you refer to.

MB

Re: F.A.S.T. question [Re: HotRodDave] #1189205
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0% legal though as the rules clearly say no 4 doors.




LAME wonder why? I guess no wagons either then.

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0% legal though as the rules clearly say no 4 doors.




LAME wonder why? I guess no wagons either then.




I dont know where he got that info from. Its been discussed. Its 100% legal and nothing in the rules states otherwise.

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2 extra doors, windows, mechanisms, latches, B pillar seem kinda heavy to me? maybe im wrong....

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2 extra doors, windows, mechanisms, latches, B pillar seem kinda heavy to me? maybe im wrong....




Is operational windows a tech item?


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2 extra doors, windows, mechanisms, latches, B pillar seem kinda heavy to me? maybe im wrong....




Is operational windows a tech item?




While I'm still having fun w/ the Charger I was just thinking about the next thing. Anyway I'd remove all the hardware so the window would just be hung in the door...no door guts... The heater/ac box would be empty, the wiper motor would be a shell, behind the door panels there'd be lots of holes, as well as under the dash pad, kick panels...you kinda see what I'm saying? Cutting up a nice clean 2 door would be a sin but an old ugly 4 door... get the out. I'd bet you could get it down under 3200lbs.

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