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What are the rules for nostalgia super stock #2532599
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I assume stock appearing engine and body with interior etc. Can u have lexan windows or does it require stock windows. What about OTHER body panels do they have to be steel or can they be fiberglass as long as it looks original? Asking for another person who wants to play.


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These are the most widely accepted N/SS rules

http://www.nmcadigital.com/dl/rules/nss.pdf

Victory series are slightly more restrictive

http://www.victorynss.com/index.php/rules

Other associations may be looser

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I wish NSS would open up the years of cars available to run. Personally it should be to 1969, as ProStock took over in 1970. It's kinda of a odd thing IMO, a 69 Dart can run with a 440 and 2x4's, but a 68 HEMI Road Runner can't. One was actually a production made car.

As for Victory, wasn't much of a fan when they told a buddy he couldn't be running other classes other then the Victory deal, as it would give him a unfair advantage. If you tow 500+ miles, and your car fits into multiple classes for the weekend, you should be able to race whatever you want.


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The easiest thing to do would be to look and see where the race you want to run is, and who is putting it on. There is little parity among the N/SS classes around the country. Most organizations twist the rules to favor a few cars (usually owned by the group's organizers) because they weren't allowed to run with another N/SS group, thus starting their own group with what they think should be allowed in N/SS.

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Sometimes the rules loosen up just for the purpose of attracting more cars into the group. Nostalgia super stockers that are 100 per cent correct don't exactly grow on trees. Check out the organizations where you think you might want to participate and get familiar with their rules. If you fit, join one. It's a great way to race!

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Agree with JERICOGTX completely.

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Originally Posted By JERICOGTX
I wish NSS would open up the years of cars available to run. Personally it should be to 1969, as ProStock took over in 1970. It's kinda of a odd thing IMO, a 69 Dart can run with a 440 and 2x4's, but a 68 HEMI Road Runner can't. One was actually a production made car.

As for Victory, wasn't much of a fan when they told a buddy he couldn't be running other classes other then the Victory deal, as it would give him a unfair advantage. If you tow 500+ miles, and your car fits into multiple classes for the weekend, you should be able to race whatever you want.

I do agree completely on the year of car and make.
I do not understand why the 68 or 69 B bodies are not allowed.
You could have a Hemi Car or a 440 6 pack car. But other makes are allowed to run 69 models.
I hate to say it, but I believe the organizers are afraid the Mopars would take over. But then I would think they would want more cars to attend.


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Originally Posted By JERICOGTX
I wish NSS would open up the years of cars available to run. Personally it should be to 1969, as ProStock took over in 1970. It's kinda of a odd thing IMO, a 69 Dart can run with a 440 and 2x4's, but a 68 HEMI Road Runner can't. One was actually a production made car.

As for Victory, wasn't much of a fan when they told a buddy he couldn't be running other classes other then the Victory deal, as it would give him a unfair advantage. If you tow 500+ miles, and your car fits into multiple classes for the weekend, you should be able to race whatever you want.


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Funny story from 60 years ago?
The NHRA is setting up the mfg. advertised power/weight ratios to break the classes.
They all look like 14.00-14.99, or 12.50-12.99 (full second or half second interval), except one, which is (IIRC) 12.69?
Why?
Two buddies on the committee had the same SBC engine, same year, but one had a post car and one had a hardtop. They split the weight break so they didn't have to race each other and each could get a trophy.


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The NMCA N/SS rules have been pretty much the same for years. No, Camaros, Mustangs, , small blocks, 68 & up full size, etc. It is what it is. Just like any other class. If you want to run in it, build a car that fits. That being said there are plenty of Stock, S/S, N/SS races that will accept a "close" bracket car. There is no engine tear down. But it just like N/SS you need to have a correct appearing factory carb. No Holley DP or Dominators, Factory style interior, no tin.
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Above, what DVW says is pretty darn accurate. Victory rules haven't, and most probably won't change either, for some of the same reasons.

Not many people have heard of the Econo dragster class in NHRA. Here is a class that just after a couple of years of rule changes, fell apart.

Junior dragsters are another neat example. What started out as an "affordable" package to run, engines are now 20 plus times the cost of the original rules.

Keep changing rules and things don't necessarily get better.

BTW, I know of no rules that were changed to fit a car. Cars were changed to fit the rules.

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I think my comment has been misconstrued. When I stated about rules being changed to fit cars, I am talking about the groups that were started outside of the large groups to fit certain types/styles of cars that were not necessarily accepted under the common NMCA rules. I guess it's more of an East Coast thing. There's a few groups in the Mid-Atlantic region where the rules are catered around the organizer's vehicles.

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Originally Posted By dvw
These are the most widely accepted N/SS rules

http://www.nmcadigital.com/dl/rules/nss.pdf

Victory series are slightly more restrictive

http://www.victorynss.com/index.php/rules

Other associations may be looser

Doug




So, as usual, the word "stock" is a loose interpretation.


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ha ha ha "stock" I'm not sure stock fits the equation other than the body.



Regardless of that, these are great rules and great groups to run with. This is drag racing as it should have never changed from. And I don't know anybody that shows up and doesn't have some fun.

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Originally Posted By sixpakdodge
I think my comment has been misconstrued. When I stated about rules being changed to fit cars, I am talking about the groups that were started outside of the large groups to fit certain types/styles of cars that were not necessarily accepted under the common NMCA rules. I guess it's more of an East Coast thing. There's a few groups in the Mid-Atlantic region where the rules are catered around the organizer's vehicles.


It would seem counter productive to start a new series or class, that your car doesn't fit in.


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If your starting from scratch, I would build it to NMCA Rules... ONLY because you will be legal no matter where you go.

Personally I don't agree with the fact they don't allow E Bodies, Camaro's and Mustangs from the late 60's early 70's.... BUT that's another discussion for another time.

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Nobody said "stock". For people who haven't raced it; No rev chip, no trans brake, fixed index, no electronics. Very competitive. Great group of racers. Yes it requires older body's that are getting tougher to get. Yes it requires 2 carbs. The fixed index is what makes it good. You have to keep changing the car to stay up on the weather and track conditions. Typically staying with-in 00-.02 (.02 can be too much).
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Originally Posted By KD800X
If your starting from scratch, I would build it to NMCA Rules... ONLY because you will be legal no matter where you go.

Personally I don't agree with the fact they don't allow E Bodies, Camaro's and Mustangs from the late 60's early 70's.... BUT that's another discussion for another time.




To make a slight correction here, NMCA allows single 4 on some cars, Victory has to have multiple carbs. Also, NMCA rules change on carb types when you dip into the nine's. Victory rules stay the same no matter the index.


Also, some of these rules originated in the '80's. Some rules haven't changed since then.

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Which rules should you build to if you live in n.e. Ohio? What tracks use which rules? How many races are there per year within a reasonable distance? Do any tracks have a regular nss race or are they all once a year special events?

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"no electronics": much more expensive, carefully hidden

Ohhh I shouldn't have said that. My bad.


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