Water Meth injection
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04/19/18 11:32 AM
04/19/18 11:32 AM
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Anyone here inject WM?? Looking for some real world experience.The claims they make are kinda hard to believe.
HEMI-ITIS has no cure. My condition is fully BLOWN!!
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Re: Water Meth injection
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04/19/18 11:39 AM
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Looking at Snow systems for my 30 psi TT, trying to get A/F back to reasonable to control injector size.
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Re: Water Meth injection
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04/20/18 04:14 AM
04/20/18 04:14 AM
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I have tried it, didn't save my pistons. There is a lot more to it than I imagined.
I would suggest Google Snow Performance etc..and read the forums. Also Yellow Bullet has LOTS of talk about this topic.
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Re: Water Meth injection
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04/20/18 03:06 PM
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I don't personally run it but my cousin does on his 67 Firebird with a stroked 400 and a centrifugal blower. He really likes his setup and he pushes his blower pretty good for what it is (runs 11 flat). He has several years of significant street use and no failures. We don't believe that would have been possible without the injection.
67 Coronet 500 9.610 @ 139.20 mph 67 Coronet 500 (street car) 14.82 @ 94 mph 69 GTX (clone) - build in progress......
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Re: Water Meth injection
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04/20/18 03:58 PM
04/20/18 03:58 PM
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I have read the snow & pro meth tech and comments,,,,BUT,it their website so I wanted to find opinions from other forums,especially here to get the REAL info.They claim an increase of up to 25 points with 92 pump gas.That lead me to think one of these WM systems could let me run in the 114 octane range on the pump & WM.Yes,the intercooling ability can't be disputed but I'm not taking any chances with a roots blown hemi.I should be able to get to my legal limit ET without it,but my mom told me when something sounds too good to be true,,,,,,it ain't!
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Re: Water Meth injection
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04/20/18 06:40 PM
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It does a good job of lowering temps. But there is two immediate problems IMO. Distribution.
Should it fail or fall short...instant melted piston .
I think it is a good thing on turbo and centrifugal stuff. Just not as confident on a roots. IMO
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Re: Water Meth injection
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04/21/18 09:54 AM
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The max % is 20% of the total fuel used in a snow kit so you could just mix that in the fuel in the tank and jet the carb to correct it when looking to just cool the intake flow.The change in charge temps may only be 30* from total temp. ps:You would use E not M in the fuel mix in the tank
Last edited by Clanton; 04/21/18 09:58 AM.
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Re: Water Meth injection
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04/21/18 01:26 PM
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My problem is that it's a street car, and not good to leave E85 (if I can find it) in a 26 year old fuel system for a month. If I run 1,000cc injectors on pump 93 to be at 10-11:1 A/F for anti-knock (I can't retard more than the TT ECM yet) they tend to drool or produce big irregular droplets at idle and low speed. Water/methanol: Messerschmidt Mercedes V12 80 years ago.
Down side: anything wrong kills the engine: 1. blown pump fuse (as said) or loose ground wire 2. line or jet obstruction (should have at least one filter) 3. bad distribution 4. bad math as to volume 5. empty water tank (the better ones have a warning light and/or an automatic shut-off) ...same as accidentally getting vacuum spark, reading the stamped jet size wrong (DAMN! That's a 50? I thought it was an 80), forgetting about the 87 you added to get home, blah.
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