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Re: do you oil the back side of a bearing shell? [Re: CompWedgeEngines] #982555
04/29/11 08:44 PM
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Crush is set by the actual ID of the bearing bore period. The bore is measured dry, and bearings are installed dry ( backside). Anything that is not the original parent bore, shouldnt be there, including dust, schars of metals, lint,. paper towel fragments etc.It also always a good idea to take a dressing stone and lightly champher all the outside edges of the bearing bores, as often ( especially newly reconditioned rods) they can slightly mushroom there and actually hold the bearing up slightly.




This was my line of thinking however, almost any factory service manual I've read says to oil both sides. I don't understand why but I'm not an engineer, just a flat rate tech.

I appreciate all the opinions and responses, the reason I asked is because I plan to assemble my 408 short block this weekend and if there was a compelling reason to do it one way or the other I wanted to hear it.

Thanks all, I guess I'll just install them clean and dry on the backside.


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Re: do you oil the back side of a bearing shell? [Re: Guitar Jones] #982556
04/29/11 11:11 PM
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I guess if oil gets back there anyway, it's pretty much of a moot point? If you put them in dry, and the saddles are dry and all stays dry, thats bare steel on bare cast iron, and in an environment that propagates moisture drop out, that = corrosion. JMO.


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Re: do you oil the back side of a bearing shell? [Re: Crizila] #982557
04/29/11 11:26 PM
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Put them in however you want, as stated, it gets back there. Never took one apart that was dry behind the bearings.

Re: do you oil the back side of a bearing shell? [Re: Crizila] #982558
04/29/11 11:40 PM
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Lightly clean backside with fine Scotchbrite in parts washer to polish, remove burrs, etc.
Wash in parts washer.
Wipe clean with paper towel with lacquer thinner and blow and clean with compressed air.
Wipe block or rod bore clean with paper towel and lacquer thinner and blow dry and clean with compressed air.
Install bearing shell dry. Tap lightly on ends to seat.
Oil with assembly lube of choice just before assembling.


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Re: do you oil the back side of a bearing shell? [Re: Guitar Jones] #982559
04/29/11 11:48 PM
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only do one drop of super light oil for easy install thats it,not use lube or full weight oil or anything like that, thrust bearings for sure go in so much nicer with one drop of light oil on back side, then dry. its not going to upset set anything for spec,ive touched/wet sanded/bearing knifed them like crazy never had one spin yet


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Re: do you oil the back side of a bearing shell? [Re: hemigod426] #982560
04/30/11 03:28 AM
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Dry always.I did know of some experiments builders tried with various liquids back in the day.No difference in performance.


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Re: do you oil the back side of a bearing shell? [Re: mike s] #982561
04/30/11 03:34 AM
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.... here is another way. How about a dab of red or blue locktite ? ... was talking to a guy I know up here he has done this for years. He races dirt 1/4 mile.

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