Re: Edelbrock 600 CFM on a 360
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04/25/11 06:04 AM
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How's the secondary ignition system (plugs, wires, rotor, cap)?? Timing? Total advance checked and functional?
Once proven, it could be time for a rebuild kit, starting with new needle/seat assemblies, a power valve and cleaning out of the metering block passages.
If it's "pig rich", Holley's are known for weeping needle/seat inlets and blown power valves.
Check for a vacuum leak too.
R.I.P.- Gary "Coop" Davis 02/09/68-05/13/04
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Re: Edelbrock 600 CFM on a 360
[Re: RapidRobert]
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04/25/11 10:25 AM
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patrick
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where do we start?
Assuming 1405 (man choke) or 1406 (elec choke). New needle/seats (avail seperately/cheap), dry setting at 7/16" iirc, idle it for 10 seconds on a level surface then pull the rods/top & fuel level should b at the notch(s) in the float baffles on each side. Make sure the internal choke vacuum pulloff works (1406). Make sure the metering rods & its tree(s) are free up & down. Hesitation at 3-4K, assuming that's WOT? exp w try several steps smaller dia on the power step on the rods & a higher # spring(s) and see if you have several psi at the carb inlet at that point (can run a vac gauge w a psi side out to & taped to the windshield for a test run. As said check psi at idle too
for what it's worth, on my old 360 with a comp XE262 cam, eddie RPM intake, and headers, I had to jet the eddie 1406 down. I ended up using the original secondary jets in the primary, replacing the rods with 7247's, and going with .089's in the secondary. I also had to swap the original (orange?) step up springs with the highest rate ones (natural).
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Re: Edelbrock 600 CFM on a 360
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04/25/11 11:00 AM
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well,now that the previous posters have given you lots of great "holley" advice,lets get back to your "edelbrock" carb.lol.
do you have a fuel pressure regulator in-line? if not,you need one. set it at 5psi. where are your mixture screws set? turn them all the way in,and turn them out 1 1/2-2 turns and start there. timing should be 12-15 degrees initial and all in around 2200-2400.
LOL lot's of holley advise...
Make sure the rods are down at idle, loosen screws, slide covers off to the side and see what the rods are doing at idle. I bet there up, must be down at idle so you can adjust the mixture screws. Look at the tuning book and see what jets and rods are in it now. Go back to base line setup if it has been changed.
But like what was said, timing must be in the ballpark first.
Timing light,vacumn gauge and the eldlbrock tuning book is required.
I run the eddie 600(1405) I'm very familer with it.
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Re: Edelbrock 600 CFM on a 360
[Re: scrag]
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04/25/11 11:03 AM
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- instructions are kinda of long winded..
Got to understand them and ignition tuning too, to have a chance at this. Read it, learn it, do it!
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Re: Edelbrock 600 CFM on a 360
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04/25/11 11:37 AM
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FWIW, when I tuned mine and had to lead it out, I was using an innovate LM-1 wide band O2 meter to tune it.
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Re: Edelbrock 600 CFM on a 360
[Re: Dean_Kuzluzski]
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04/25/11 08:06 PM
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I had one I reworked for my mild 360, and it was a ton better when done, but I drilled out the squirters and played with all kinds of jets, metering rods, etc. ScratchenforTraction has it now. Its still not as good as the Quick Fuel annular carb that replaced it, and not even close to the EZ efi that replaced that carb....If your lucky, he will open it up and give you the jetting I had in it.
To get one right, you will need to spend some time readng the vacuum, the timing, and the plugs. The more timing, the more fuel, etc. I won't even work on an engine that doesn't have a quick advance distributer...It just a waste of time. Learn it once, and you will be an expert...Those carbs run out of fuel in the bowl when you get a tune that's close to being right, just not enough for the fuel squirt the engine needs.
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Re: Edelbrock 600 CFM on a 360
[Re: Dragula]
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04/25/11 09:41 PM
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why yes i do, and it seems to work great on my stock 440 so far. I set the IAS with the vac gauge and that was it,only needed a little turn to be dead on  only bliped the 2ndarys a little,I am having tranz trouble with mine, but it sure lights 1st gear up real nice  I have no reason to open it up..but if it would be helpfull I would not mind,i will be pulling the intake soon for a vally pan swap anyways here it is on the 440/weiand intake I am running
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