Re: 727 Trans Kick Down Linkage Question-71 RoadRunner 383
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Do you have the correct Mopar throttle lever extension (Edelbrock #1481) on that Edelbrock?
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Re: 727 Trans Kick Down Linkage Question-71 RoadRunner 383
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Are you running the Chrysler linkage adapter Edelbrock sells for these carbs? I have never had an issue using stock linkage with the adapter. There are different kick down rods between small and big block and even B to RB, the carb slide bracket I believe is the same length on the big block 4 bbl engines. Small block 2bbl cars do have a shorter one. Not sure on 4bbl setups.
EDIT: Beat me on the adapter John
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Re: 727 Trans Kick Down Linkage Question-71 RoadRunner 383
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Yes, I have the adapter installed - I should have mentioned that. I looked at it again and something just ain't right. Here's a picture, maybe it will help. There's about 3/4" of space at the rear of the slide bracket behind the throttle stud - there should be no space there.
Thanks everyone.
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Re: 727 Trans Kick Down Linkage Question-71 RoadRunner 383
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Is there an adjustable swivel at the transmission end of the rod?
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Re: 727 Trans Kick Down Linkage Question-71 RoadRunner 383
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When I was getting help on here with setting up my kickdown linkage, lots of guys showed me how the just took 2 of those slotted bars and bolted them together to esentially make one long bar, so the the slot was properly sitting against the throttle pin at idle. Problem solved.
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Re: 727 Trans Kick Down Linkage Question-71 RoadRunner 383
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If it can fit, a spacer under that carb should help. I would help performance, and also give you a better angle for your kickdown linkage. I have a 1/2" spacer on mine.
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Re: 727 Trans Kick Down Linkage Question-71 RoadRunner 383
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If it can fit, a spacer under that carb should help. I would help performance, and also give you a better angle for your kickdown linkage. I have a 1/2" spacer on mine.
I was thinking the same thing.
OP what intake is that and does the car have an air grabber hood ?
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Re: 727 Trans Kick Down Linkage Question-71 RoadRunner 383
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Re: 727 Trans Kick Down Linkage Question-71 RoadRunner 383
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It's not late - I'm still scratching my head on this! Based on the responses I've received above, we agree that the downward angle of the slide bar linkage is not right. Bee71Mopar inferred that 383 and 440 brackets are different, do you mean the height at which the throttle cable mounts is the difference? If so, then I would think that because the stroke/deck height on an RB motor is higher than a B motor, than the 383 bracket would be higher to compensate for the shorter stroke/deck height. If that's the case, then I probably do have the 383 bracket which is pushing the linkage up too high. I should then get a shorter 440 bracket??????? I want to say again that the kick down linkage,including adjustment and angle was perfect with the Holley carb and I only now have issues because of switching to the Edelbrock. The difference is with the carb - the throttle cable bracket on the carb must be set at a lower height than the Holley. Does anyone know this for sure? Thanks again everyone!
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Re: 727 Trans Kick Down Linkage Question-71 RoadRunner 383
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Something doesn't look right, I don't think that should be angled down like that.
Possibly because the "C" shaped link is standing near verticle, in some installations it leans forward at an angle which would bring the top link closer to horizontal. That would also close up the gap in the slot.
Looking at it again after John mentioned this I can see your problem and I believe it is caused because you have run out of adjustment on the rod going down to the trans which is not allowing the carb attachment to go fully forward.
Did you piece this setup together, you may have the wrong lever down at the trans wich is why it is at the end of travel , or you put it on upside down ?
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Re: 727 Trans Kick Down Linkage Question-71 RoadRunner 383
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Something doesn't look right, I don't think that should be angled down like that.
Possibly because the "C" shaped link is standing near verticle, in some installations it leans forward at an angle which would bring the top link closer to horizontal. That would also close up the gap in the slot.
Looking at it again after John mentioned this I can see your problem and I believe it is caused because you have run out of adjustment on the rod going down to the trans which is not allowing the carb attachment to go fully forward.
Did you piece this setup together, you may have the wrong lever down at the trans wich is why it is at the end of travel , or you put it on upside down ?
Did you miss this ? unbolt the down rod and see if everything levels out and it pulls forward, if it does you either have the wrong throttle cable bracket or the lower rod is too short/bent wrong or the lever on the trans is the wrong oreintation.
I asked , is this parts from one source or did you piece it together ?
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Re: 727 Trans Kick Down Linkage Question-71 RoadRunner 383
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OK - here's some more pics - the lever is definitely at an odd angle when looking at it straight on.
That bracket is a 440 one and you should replace it with the right one.
Here is one available at a reasonable cost. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MOPAR-383...=item5ae001dbbe The seller is Jimmy Borros and he knows his 71 up b-body's well, and has helped me out allot over the last couple years.
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Re: 727 Trans Kick Down Linkage Question-71 RoadRunner 383
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Air grabber cars like mine came off the line with Holleys.
What Holley do you have , the original or an aftermarket with the Chrysler adapter ?
Why would you remove a holley and put on that junk performer 750 , Everything I read on the internet says Holleys are the best carburetors ever built ?
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Re: 727 Trans Kick Down Linkage Question-71 RoadRunner 383
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Sorry for digging up an old thread
Was responding to kickdown adjustment on another thread when I dug this up
Does anyone make the correct 1971 one piece kickdown linkage pictured in this thread
I see only brand new reproduction three piece kickdowns used on the older big block cars
And then of course the excellent pictures provided here with the difference between the 383 and 440 bracket that attaches to the manifold for the throttle cable and adjustment bolt for rod
Looking for individual pieces as some of my swivel holes are elongated or wore out where the adjustment is on the bracket itself. A lot of free play
1971 383 Magnum one piece rod kickdown linkage / bracket
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Re: 727 Trans Kick Down Linkage Question-71 RoadRunner 383
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I have a Carter 9536 sitting at home. It's the performance replacement for the 340/383 AVS.
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