What's the REAL limit of the NV3500?
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I know the factory says the NV3500 is only rated for 300 ft lbs of torque, but it comes behind a 318, which can make nearly that in stock form, seems like too close of a margin of error for a factory set-up.
I'd like to drop a slightly modified 360 into my Dakota and do so cheaply i.e. keeping the stock NV3500.
the engine will have an M1 intake, headers, the heads shaved .030 to up the compression, and a camshaft. I'd guess that the combo of parts would put it near if not equal to that of the 380 horse crate motors.
I know of a Dakota that was running mid-13s for quite some time on a modified 318 and the NV3500, on slicks, with a vehicle weight of probably 3800 lbs.
I don't plan to ever use slicks, this is a street toy.
bottom line, on non-sticky street tires, would the NV3500 live behind a slightly modified 360?
anyone have first hand experience with this?
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Re: What's the REAL limit of the NV3500?
[Re: Mopar_Country]
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they came in 2500s? I thought dakota 318s and 1500s were it.
my truck is "light" being a regular cab dakota, again, my gut says "go for it" with street tires, because my club cab that had a big block in it making 535 tq. with a TKO-600 had a "measely" 8.25 under it for 2,000 miles with no problems before I upgraded to the 9.25 so I could start adding traction aids to it.
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Re: What's the REAL limit of the NV3500?
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03/30/11 03:21 PM
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i have a 95 dakota (with same engine set up as yours). Its in a stand cab short bed, and went 13.60's on street tires (no slicks of course). My new truck 95 408 has 4.10s with an NV3500. I dont trust it to live behind it if I beat on it. I would say its a 475 hp + engine at the crank. Hence the reason I wanted to buy your TKO 600...  justin
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Re: What's the REAL limit of the NV3500?
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03/30/11 04:36 PM
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i have a 95 dakota (with same engine set up as yours). Its in a stand cab short bed, and went 13.60's on street tires (no slicks of course).
My new truck 95 408 has 4.10s with an NV3500. I dont trust it to live behind it if I beat on it. I would say its a 475 hp + engine at the crank.
Hence the reason I wanted to buy your TKO 600...
justin
Yea....but the TKO went with the other big block dakota specific parts--headers, mounts, etc. for me to get this new truck, the big block sits idle by the Cuda for a freshen-up, and the rest of the club cab is getting parted out.
I have no plans to build a stroker and keep this trans. right now it's a decent street cruiser as-is, but through all my wheeling and dealing, I'm going to end up with the fresh 360 with shaved heads/camshaft--so all I'd need to drop it in is a 360 flywheel.
otherwise I'll end up with a fresh 360 sitting in the garage doing nothing, and it'll be hard to sell because not many guys will be wanting an EFI 360 with a 220-ish duration cam on a 106LSA. (I was originally going to carb it and drop it into the big block truck, keeping the TKO, but this deal came along for the blue truck and it was too hard to say no)
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Re: What's the REAL limit of the NV3500?
[Re: Mopar_Country]
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03/30/11 05:40 PM
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Unless I'm reading this wrong.
http://www.smartpartsauto.com/manual_transmission_nv3500_dodge.html
it's in the internet so it's true!
no, BR (94-01) dodge 3/4 ton's base engine was the 360. only manual offered behind the 360 in those years was the NVG4500 in 3/4 and 1 ton. 1/2 ton 360's are auto only.
Chev offered the 3500 behind the 210HP TBI 350, and I think disco'd it behind the 350 once they switched to the Vortec 350, but I can't remember for sure...been a lot of years since I dealt with NVG products.
go for it. what's the worst that will happen? you break it and you get another or a different tranny? IIRC I want to say the input shaft is the weak link, but it's been 10-12 years since I had a lot of interaction with NVG engineers....
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Re: What's the REAL limit of the NV3500?
[Re: Mopar_Country]
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03/31/11 02:17 PM
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Lookup member Duner. He has one behind a turbocharged 4.7L making a bunch of power.
I ran one in my dakota with the 4.7L doing autocrosses and track days with no issues.
On a side note, the hurst shifter makes a huge difference and is well worth the money.
-Jon
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