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Pennzoil Ultra? #943331 03/05/11 11:28 AM 03/05/11 11:28 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,018 Morningside AdventurerSport OP waaaay out there in left field
AdventurerSport OP waaaay out there in left field Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,018 Morningside	Anyone here use Pennzoil Ultra engine oil? Just curious...now that Kurt Busch and his Penske Racing #22 Dodge are sponsored by Pennzoil, I've been looking at some of their products (plus, I get six billion emails, texts, etc. from them now). I know that regular Pennzoil is junk, and have for years, but how about the Ultra/synthetic stuff? Maybe it's not so bad? I try to support Dodge sponsors as best as I can, but I REALLY do not want to start using Pennzoil..ugh! Any thoughts? Thanks! JS 76 Dodge Adventurer Sport Power Wagon W100 318, 727, NP203 Fulltime 4x4 Russet Red 06 Jeep Commander Ltd 4x4, 5.7L Hemi, QuadraDrive II 06 Chrysler 300C AWD 5.7L Hemi 10 Mopar 10 Challenger R/T, #483/500, 5.7L HEMI 10 Jeep Grand Cherokee Ltd 4x4 5.7L HEMI 11 Dodge Ram 1500 LoneStar Quad Cab, 5.7L HEMI, Fulltime 4x4, Deep Cherry Red 16 Jeep Cherokee Limited 3.2L Pentastar V6, 9 Speed Torqueflite, 4x4, Black

Re: Pennzoil Ultra? [Re: AdventurerSport] #943332 03/05/11 12:27 PM 03/05/11 12:27 PM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	I don't use Pennzoil or Fram filters because of past quality issues. I try to use Valvoline and WIX but can't always do it, but never resort to Fram or Pennzoil. Maybe they are better now? It would be nice if there was an independent test of all the modern motor oils so we could make an informed opinion.

Re: Pennzoil Ultra? [Re: AdventurerSport] #943333 03/05/11 01:10 PM 03/05/11 01:10 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,402 Littleton Colo G Geezer pro stock
Geezer pro stock G Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,402 Littleton Colo	I use it in the wifes 07 Jeep Grand with 107,000 miles.Probably overkill but she uses the vehicle like a police car and it needs all the help it can get.

Re: Pennzoil Ultra? [Re: Geezer] #943334 03/05/11 01:43 PM 03/05/11 01:43 PM
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,465 Carson City, NV B babarracuda pro stock
babarracuda pro stock B Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,465 Carson City, NV	Once burned, twice wary!! Penzoil and Fram have developed over the years a rep and tests to show their low quality. I'm not willing to try them, especially Fram!

Re: Pennzoil Ultra? [Re: babarracuda] #943335 03/05/11 03:22 PM 03/05/11 03:22 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,668 Mi,U.S.A. M mike s top fuel
mike s top fuel M Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,668 Mi,U.S.A.	Pennzoil junk?.......Ultra is OEM in Ferrari and the last Vipers,SRT8 w/6.4L. Leave the gun.......take the Cannoli's....Mike

Re: Pennzoil Ultra? [Re: mike s] #943336 03/05/11 06:21 PM 03/05/11 06:21 PM
Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 327 wisconsin M mod381 enthusiast
mod381 enthusiast M Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 327 wisconsin	I do not like penzoil but as said it is now the oem mopar oil supplier. If you were to buy mopar oil it is penzoil and it is what is put in at factory.

Re: Pennzoil Ultra? [Re: mod381] #943337 03/05/11 07:21 PM 03/05/11 07:21 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,924 Grand Prairie,Texas stumpy I Win
stumpy I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,924 Grand Prairie,Texas	Mopar using pennszoil is a bean counters choice not an engineers.

Re: Pennzoil Ultra? [Re: stumpy] #943338 03/05/11 08:14 PM 03/05/11 08:14 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,531 Jacksonville, FL Chris2581 master
Chris2581 master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,531 Jacksonville, FL	Pennzoil,Quaker State and Shell are all the same company under the Shell umbrella.The oil comes from the same source as does many other brands of oils. A very good site on oil is www.bobistheoilguy.com Nautilus Racing- We use Superformance gaskets and Turbo Action converters/products.

Re: Pennzoil Ultra? [Re: Chris2581] #943339 03/06/11 03:57 AM 03/06/11 03:57 AM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 10,201 Someplace you aren't S SomeCarGuy I Live Here
SomeCarGuy I Live Here S Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 10,201 Someplace you aren't	The Pennsoil synthetics have been quite good for years. I haven't used the Ultra offering yet, a trip to BITOG would be a good idea if you want to know about any oil.

Re: Pennzoil Ultra? [Re: stumpy] #943340 03/06/11 04:48 AM 03/06/11 04:48 AM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,668 Mi,U.S.A. M mike s top fuel
mike s top fuel M Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,668 Mi,U.S.A.	Quote: Mopar using pennszoil is a bean counters choice not an engineers. Not really.They could have bought oil from any of the oil companies.After they lost Mobil they needed another supplier for the full synthetic oil.They chose Shell-Pennzoil.Is cost a factor?,probably but so is quality.Do you know what the regular dino oil they used was over the years? If you did you wouldn't like it. All the engine testing is done with the same oils that are installed in the vehicle at the factory.I have done hundreds of oil analysis samples over the years and never an oil related failure.While there are differences in oils they are small they all have to meet the GF4,5 std of today.BTW I doubt cost is much of a factor at Ferrari Leave the gun.......take the Cannoli's....Mike

Re: Pennzoil Ultra? [Re: mike s] #943341 03/06/11 06:47 AM 03/06/11 06:47 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,521 Land of the Brave, Home of the... 6 63CandyMatic pro stock
63CandyMatic pro stock 6 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,521 Land of the Brave, Home of the...	Big shift in Pennzoil quality for the better over the past several years. Do some research, very good oil in the right applications now. 30 years ago, when Arnold Palmer promoted it, not so much.

Re: Pennzoil Ultra? [Re: 63CandyMatic] #943342 03/06/11 12:45 PM 03/06/11 12:45 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,018 Morningside AdventurerSport OP waaaay out there in left field
AdventurerSport OP waaaay out there in left field Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,018 Morningside	So, am I crazy to switch to Ultra just because of the Penske sponsorship? I've always run Valvoline and WIX filters and never had a oil or filter related problem...? I'd try Pennzoil Ultra before any other Shell oil product, but maybe I'm better off to just buy gas at Shell and stick with Valvoline? JS 76 Dodge Adventurer Sport Power Wagon W100 318, 727, NP203 Fulltime 4x4 Russet Red 06 Jeep Commander Ltd 4x4, 5.7L Hemi, QuadraDrive II 06 Chrysler 300C AWD 5.7L Hemi 10 Mopar 10 Challenger R/T, #483/500, 5.7L HEMI 10 Jeep Grand Cherokee Ltd 4x4 5.7L HEMI 11 Dodge Ram 1500 LoneStar Quad Cab, 5.7L HEMI, Fulltime 4x4, Deep Cherry Red 16 Jeep Cherokee Limited 3.2L Pentastar V6, 9 Speed Torqueflite, 4x4, Black

Re: Pennzoil Ultra? [Re: AdventurerSport] #943343 03/06/11 02:18 PM 03/06/11 02:18 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 10,201 Someplace you aren't S SomeCarGuy I Live Here
SomeCarGuy I Live Here S Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 10,201 Someplace you aren't	I would say so. Advertising is no reason to switch.

Re: Pennzoil Ultra? [Re: SomeCarGuy] #943344 03/06/11 02:35 PM 03/06/11 02:35 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,018 Morningside AdventurerSport OP waaaay out there in left field
AdventurerSport OP waaaay out there in left field Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,018 Morningside	Ok thanks for all the replies! JS 76 Dodge Adventurer Sport Power Wagon W100 318, 727, NP203 Fulltime 4x4 Russet Red 06 Jeep Commander Ltd 4x4, 5.7L Hemi, QuadraDrive II 06 Chrysler 300C AWD 5.7L Hemi 10 Mopar 10 Challenger R/T, #483/500, 5.7L HEMI 10 Jeep Grand Cherokee Ltd 4x4 5.7L HEMI 11 Dodge Ram 1500 LoneStar Quad Cab, 5.7L HEMI, Fulltime 4x4, Deep Cherry Red 16 Jeep Cherokee Limited 3.2L Pentastar V6, 9 Speed Torqueflite, 4x4, Black

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