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F,M,J disc on a b-body ? #941609 03/02/11 09:07 PM 03/02/11 09:07 PM
Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,832 Fort Morgan 1OFNONE OP Has been a member for quite a few years, so relax.
1OFNONE OP Has been a member for quite a few years, so relax. Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,832 Fort Morgan	Will this swap work ? or will all the parts work on a b-body spindle ? So the bartender says to the horse " Gee, Why the long face?"

Re: F,M,J disc on a b-body ? [Re: 1OFNONE] #941610 03/02/11 09:18 PM 03/02/11 09:18 PM
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rabid scott "You're Where?" R Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,884 Tracy CA	Yep, I have them on my '67 Valiant right now and my buddy has had them on a 1966 Dodge Coronet for about 6 or 7 years now.

Re: F,M,J disc on a b-body ? DELETED [Re: rabid scott] #941611 03/02/11 11:06 PM 03/02/11 11:06 PM
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Re: F,M,J disc on a b-body ? [Re: cjs69mope] #941612 03/02/11 11:33 PM 03/02/11 11:33 PM
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68SportSatvert top fuel 6 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,758 KS	Here we go again!!!! Do a search and check previous posts. Everyone has an opinion and YES they will work. YES they are a bit taller but many have used them without problems. I wouldn't have an issue using them. As a matter of fact I have a set to use. Again, do asearch as there have been MANY threads on this...

Re: F,M,J disc on a b-body ? [Re: 68SportSatvert] #941613 03/02/11 11:53 PM 03/02/11 11:53 PM
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Kern Dog Striving for excellence Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 18,493 Granite Bay CA	This debate has been going on for years, and some are dead set against it without even attempting a mock up to see for themselves. Heres a way to prove that the taller "knuckle" will work or not: Put the car up on jackstands and swap in the KNUCKLE only, no rotor or caliper. install UPPER control arm without the boot on the ball joint. Make sure the torsion bar is unloaded from tension so the suspension can achieve FULL travel. With a helper moving the lower control arm through its full range of travel up and down, look at the upper ball joint to see if it gets near its full range as well. Steve Dulcich wrote an article in Mopar Muscle in 2005 using a front clip of a parts car to prove that this swap is not only possible, but that it also has some advantages. YOU decide.

Re: F,M,J disc on a b-body ? [Re: 1OFNONE] #941614 03/03/11 12:27 AM 03/03/11 12:27 AM
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71charger top fuel 7 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,016 Frederick, MD	tall vs. short ad nauseum

Re: F,M,J disc on a b-body ? [Re: 1OFNONE] #941615 03/03/11 05:57 PM 03/03/11 05:57 PM
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Re: F,M,J disc on a b-body ? [Re: feets] #941616 03/03/11 06:06 PM 03/03/11 06:06 PM
Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,832 Fort Morgan 1OFNONE OP Has been a member for quite a few years, so relax.
1OFNONE OP Has been a member for quite a few years, so relax. Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,832 Fort Morgan	I seem to have hit a hornets nest with a big rock. I have even got some negative p.m.'s from guys about it. I have been a member for quite a few years and people need to relax. This is an information forum not a bunch of hens in a hen house. Good grief. State the facts that you know and leave it at that. So the bartender says to the horse " Gee, Why the long face?"

Re: F,M,J disc on a b-body ? [Re: 1OFNONE] #941617 03/03/11 06:13 PM 03/03/11 06:13 PM
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DANA60 mopar Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 616 TP Exit 7, NJ, USA	Just another day on MOPARTS 6508196-234859228.jpg (33 downloads)

Re: F,M,J disc on a b-body ? [Re: 1OFNONE] #941618 03/03/11 06:26 PM 03/03/11 06:26 PM
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1OFNONE OP Has been a member for quite a few years, so relax. Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,832 Fort Morgan	Whom ever the Mod was that put this "I have been a member for quite a few years and people need to relax" crap on my profile needs to remove it. Its uncalled for ! Mods are to keep the forum clean. Not add fuel to the fire. So the bartender says to the horse " Gee, Why the long face?"

Re: F,M,J disc on a b-body ? [Re: 1OFNONE] #941619 03/03/11 06:28 PM 03/03/11 06:28 PM
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feets Senior Management Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 28,068 Irving, TX	Quote: Whom ever the Mod was that put this "I have been a member for quite a few years and people need to relax" crap on my profile needs to remove it. Its uncalled for ! Mods are to keep the forum clean. Not add fuel to the fire. We are brothers and sisters doing time on the planet for better or worse. I'll take the better, if you don't mind. - Stu Harmon

Re: F,M,J disc on a b-body ? [Re: feets] #941620 03/03/11 06:31 PM 03/03/11 06:31 PM
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Re: F,M,J disc on a b-body ? [Re: 1OFNONE] #941621 03/03/11 06:33 PM 03/03/11 06:33 PM
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RobX4406 I Live Here Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 12,271 Overpriced Housing Central	Quote: I seem to have hit a hornets nest with a big rock. I have even got some negative p.m.'s from guys about it. I have been a member for quite a few years and people need to relax. This is an information forum not a bunch of hens in a hen house. Good grief. State the facts that you know and leave it at that. I've been running FMJ's on A bodies for a LONG time and NEVER an issue. The B spindles are the same height as the A's in your case. I sell all the A body kits I get and buy 2-3 FMJ set up with the proceeds. BBD has a nice write up about the geometry with some data, unlike that original article people love to quote. I've never heard of a BJ breaking from over-angling and I believe neither has the author. The change in position is approx or less than 3* at the extremes, IIRC. IMO, there's a bit of CYA journalism in the article which is fine and dandy in our litigious society. http://www.bigblockdart.com/techpages/spindles.shtml There lots of dangerous bump steering A and B bodies out there with breaking ball joints. LMAO, so you might want to stay home.

Re: F,M,J disc on a b-body ? [Re: RobX4406] #941622 03/03/11 06:35 PM 03/03/11 06:35 PM
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64Post master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,716 Baltimore/Denver	Quote: Quote: I seem to have hit a hornets nest with a big rock. I have even got some negative p.m.'s from guys about it. I have been a member for quite a few years and people need to relax. This is an information forum not a bunch of hens in a hen house. Good grief. State the facts that you know and leave it at that. I've been running FMJ's on A bodies for a LONG time and NEVER an issue. I sell all the A body kits I get and buy 2-3 FMJ set up with the proceeds. BBD has a nice write up about the geometry with some data, unlike that original article people love to quote. I've never heard of a BJ breaking from over-angling and I believe neither has the author. The change in position is approx or less than 3* at the extremes, IIRC. IMO, there's a bit of CYA journalism in the article which is fine and dandy in our litigious society. http://www.bigblockdart.com/techpages/spindles.shtml There lots of dangerous bump steering A and B bodies out there with breaking ball joints. LMAO, so you might want to stay home. ^^^^ What he said...

Re: F,M,J disc on a b-body ? [Re: 64Post] #941623 03/03/11 08:24 PM 03/03/11 08:24 PM
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Jim_Lusk I Live Here Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 18,678 Fresno, CA	I put those spindles on my son's 67 Barracuda autocrosser. Never an issue with the suspension on that car. I have a set that is going on my 67 Barracuda convertible, too.

Re: F,M,J disc on a b-body ? [Re: Jim_Lusk] #941624 03/03/11 10:48 PM 03/03/11 10:48 PM
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TooMany62s top fuel Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,796 Greer, SC	I did it both of my 62's. No problems. No bump steer.

Re: F,M,J disc on a b-body ? [Re: Jim_Lusk] #941625 03/04/11 01:24 AM 03/04/11 01:24 AM
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DAYCLONA I Live Here Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 18,157 Mass	Quote: I put those spindles on my son's 67 Barracuda autocrosser. Never an issue with the suspension on that car. .....I've been running the F,M,J spindles(prefered) for years, street/strip/roadcourse, no alignment/set up issues, on any of the cars, mine or customers that I've installed them on, including achieving caster requirements,...I do prefer however to change the caliper bracket over to the earlier 70-2 pin style,...IMHO a lot of the "controversy" over the install is by "armchair quarterbacks" calling the plays Mike 6509099-0000a.jpg (18 downloads)

Re: F,M,J disc on a b-body ? [Re: DAYCLONA] #941626 03/04/11 04:12 PM 03/04/11 04:12 PM
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1OFNONE OP Has been a member for quite a few years, so relax. Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,832 Fort Morgan	Thanks everyone for your hard facts as to the issue. Since this is going on a '57 Plymouht, I need to find a '57 Ply spindle and sit it next to a standard disc b-body spindle to check height and angle and such. The quest continues... So the bartender says to the horse " Gee, Why the long face?"

Re: F,M,J disc on a b-body ? [Re: 1OFNONE] #941627 03/04/11 04:23 PM 03/04/11 04:23 PM
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John_Kunkel Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,885 Rio Linda, CA	A '57 isn't a B body that the OP asked about. The F,M,J brakes will work on the Forward Look cars but it's not quite as easy as the B body; some grinding for clearance is required. The INTERNET, the MISinformation superhighway

Re: F,M,J disc on a b-body ? [Re: John_Kunkel] #941628 03/05/11 01:03 PM 03/05/11 01:03 PM
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1OFNONE OP Has been a member for quite a few years, so relax. Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,832 Fort Morgan	Thanks John. The '57 had FMJ's disc on it when purchased, but had really bad bump steer. So my father took the discs off and put on stock '57 drums and the bump steer went away and now drives like a dream. In the long run he wants drop spindles on it but they dont make them for drum brakes, disc only. I believe the arm on the fmj's that bolts on and the tie rod end drops into is the issue. 6511670-Brakes096.JPG (18 downloads) So the bartender says to the horse " Gee, Why the long face?"

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