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FIRM FEEL INC. SUSPENSION #937937 02/26/11 01:37 PM 02/26/11 01:37 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,106 CANADA Desmond OP super stock
Desmond OP super stock Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,106 CANADA	I am considering these parts from this supplier in quick ratio form for my 1970 B-body. Anyone with any experience doing the same? http://www.firmfeel.com/manualst.htm http://www.firmfeel.com/fastrati.htm Last edited by Desmond; 02/26/11 01:39 PM.

Re: FIRM FEEL INC. SUSPENSION [Re: Desmond] #937938 02/26/11 02:16 PM 02/26/11 02:16 PM
Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 7,195 Harrisburg, Pa. screamindriver master
screamindriver master Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 7,195 Harrisburg, Pa.	Great company and very nice products...You can't go wrong with firm feel....Is the car stock ??? Only trouble would be if you've added headers or any aftermarket goodies near the steering gear...That company is very knowledgeable with their products...Not like other companies selling other manufacturers parts...Call them and talk to Dick,very nice fellow...He'll have all your answers and more...

Re: FIRM FEEL INC. SUSPENSION [Re: screamindriver] #937939 02/26/11 02:31 PM 02/26/11 02:31 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,106 CANADA Desmond OP super stock
Desmond OP super stock Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,106 CANADA	THANK YOU. The car is getting a complete, correct restoration visually. The engine has some aftermarket pieces inside, the 4-wheel manual drum brakes will be upgraded to a visually identical to stock high-perf system for shorter stopping distances and this is the only other mod I would like to make. No headers. Ceramic coated exhaust manifolds. thanks again.

Re: FIRM FEEL INC. SUSPENSION [Re: Desmond] #937940 02/26/11 02:38 PM 02/26/11 02:38 PM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,647 Houston Texas PAINT IT BLACK Got a CHIP on my shoulder
PAINT IT BLACK Got a CHIP on my shoulder Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,647 Houston Texas	I have the power gear box and the fast ratio arms for both my '70 E body and '70 B body. Actually I've got a lot of their products for both my cars. They know their stuff and are very cool to deal with.

Re: FIRM FEEL INC. SUSPENSION [Re: PAINT IT BLACK] #937941 02/26/11 06:33 PM 02/26/11 06:33 PM
Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,212 QLD Australia Keith Black® pro stock
Keith Black® pro stock Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,212 QLD Australia	I have a lot of their stuff too. Great people to deal with, great products, knowledgeable. -------------------------------- Darren Beale Keith Black Racing Engines®

Re: FIRM FEEL INC. SUSPENSION [Re: Keith Black®] #937942 02/26/11 07:21 PM 02/26/11 07:21 PM
Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 6,005 Reno, Nevada NV69B7RR master
NV69B7RR master Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 6,005 Reno, Nevada	Great company to deal with and great products. 72 Demon 340 71 Duster 340 Resto https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...part=1&vc=1

Re: FIRM FEEL INC. SUSPENSION [Re: Keith Black®] #937943 02/26/11 07:29 PM 02/26/11 07:29 PM
Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 204 washington A AB&E enthusiast
AB&E enthusiast A Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 204 washington	I am curiuos what would I notice diff. if I had a completly rebuilt front end with all stock parts & used one of their boxs what would be the diff from a rebuilt from someone else box ?? I guess I am asking does it drive better & how thanks I did not realize they live in my backyard.

Re: FIRM FEEL INC. SUSPENSION [Re: Desmond] #937944 02/26/11 07:49 PM 02/26/11 07:49 PM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,708 S. Il. U.S.A. 5spdcuda top fuel
5spdcuda top fuel Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,708 S. Il. U.S.A.	I've bought from them twice. Good service and a quality product plus good technical assistance both times.

Re: FIRM FEEL INC. SUSPENSION [Re: 5spdcuda] #937945 02/26/11 07:59 PM 02/26/11 07:59 PM
Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 5,278 San Jose, California D DennisH Vacation
DennisH Vacation D Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 5,278 San Jose, California	Quote: I've bought from them twice. Good service and a quality product plus good technical assistance both times. Same here.

Re: FIRM FEEL INC. SUSPENSION [Re: NV69B7RR] #937946 02/26/11 11:50 PM 02/26/11 11:50 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,323 NY NY 3 340duster340 master
340duster340 master 3 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,323 NY NY	Quote: Great company to deal with and great products. these guys know their stuff and have great products.

Re: FIRM FEEL INC. SUSPENSION [Re: Desmond] #937947 02/26/11 11:56 PM 02/26/11 11:56 PM
Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 18,493 Granite Bay CA Kern Dog Striving for excellence
Kern Dog Striving for excellence Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 18,493 Granite Bay CA	I have a 70 Charger with the stage 3 power steering box. I love it. I stepped up to their fast ratio idler and pitman arms too. This turned my 3 1/2 turns to 2 5/8 lock to lock AND firmed up the response even more. I have a stroked 440 with TTI 2" headers. TTI claims that the Firm Feel fast ratio arms DO NOT clear, but mine do with over 3/4 inch of room to spare. Stock type motor mounts too.

Re: FIRM FEEL INC. SUSPENSION [Re: AB&E] #937948 02/27/11 12:29 AM 02/27/11 12:29 AM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7,664 IN A ahy master
ahy master A Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7,664 IN	Quote: I am curiuos what would I notice diff. if I had a completly rebuilt front end with all stock parts & used one of their boxs what would be the diff from a rebuilt from someone else box ?? I guess I am asking does it drive better & how thanks I did not realize they live in my backyard. Firm Feel rebuilds the boxes carefully with correct clearances ect. so they are "tighter" than a run of the mill rebuild. They also offer more "feel" or less power assist in 3 stages with stage 3 giving the least assist. Most folks seem to like stage 2 or stage 3. I am using their stage 2 and like it.

Re: FIRM FEEL INC. SUSPENSION [Re: ahy] #937949 02/27/11 03:50 PM 02/27/11 03:50 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,374 Houston,Tx. L Lee446 pro stock
Lee446 pro stock L Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,374 Houston,Tx.	I must be the only unhappy customer. I wanted the stage 3, let the owner of FF talk me into the stage 2. I put it in my 69 Sat with completley rebuilt suspension with 11/16 tie rods. I put the Hemi in and when I took it for a ride, it is one finger, typically Chrysler, overboosted power steering. They told me it would be similar in feel to my buddies 06 GTO. Not even close, feels just like stock. I am going to look into the pressure reduction mod for the pump, but FF led me to believe there would be a significant upgrade in the box alone. I should have followed advice on this forum and insisted on the stage 3. Other than that, they do nice work, but I am not going to all the trouble to lift the engine to pull the box. My advice would be to go with the stage 3.

Re: FIRM FEEL INC. SUSPENSION [Re: Lee446] #937950 02/27/11 04:03 PM 02/27/11 04:03 PM
Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 18,493 Granite Bay CA Kern Dog Striving for excellence
Kern Dog Striving for excellence Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 18,493 Granite Bay CA	I agree. There have been many on this forum who were hornswaggled into the stage 2 setup, only to find similar results. When I called, they told me that there would be a 2 week wait for a stage 3 but that they had a stage 2 ready to ship that day. I stuck to my original plan and am quite happy that i did.

Re: FIRM FEEL INC. SUSPENSION [Re: Kern Dog] #937951 02/27/11 04:41 PM 02/27/11 04:41 PM
Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 204 washington A AB&E enthusiast
AB&E enthusiast A Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 204 washington	so as far as stage 2 & stage 3 I have manual steering would this make a diff on this app & it sounds like the diff is more firmness to the wheel not like stock where it feels loose & oversteer easy like all mopar in the era.chevy always drove tight to me & mopar was loose feeling so it sounds like with there box it changes that is this correct also did you guys buy a complete box or the kit & doit yourself could be a big diff if you do not know whats going on.

Re: FIRM FEEL INC. SUSPENSION [Re: Lee446] #937952 02/27/11 05:51 PM 02/27/11 05:51 PM
Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 5,278 San Jose, California D DennisH Vacation
DennisH Vacation D Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 5,278 San Jose, California	Quote: I must be the only unhappy customer. I wanted the stage 3, let the owner of FF talk me into the stage 2. I put it in my 69 Sat with completley rebuilt suspension with 11/16 tie rods. I put the Hemi in and when I took it for a ride, it is one finger, typically Chrysler, overboosted power steering. They told me it would be similar in feel to my buddies 06 GTO. Not even close, feels just like stock. I am going to look into the pressure reduction mod for the pump, but FF led me to believe there would be a significant upgrade in the box alone. I should have followed advice on this forum and insisted on the stage 3. Other than that, they do nice work, but I am not going to all the trouble to lift the engine to pull the box. My advice would be to go with the stage 3. Maybe a FF Stage 1 was sent. My Stage one if firmer and tighter than stock was before. I would get Stage 2 next time, but 1 is a big improvement.

Re: FIRM FEEL INC. SUSPENSION [Re: AB&E] #937953 02/27/11 06:34 PM 02/27/11 06:34 PM
Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 18,493 Granite Bay CA Kern Dog Striving for excellence
Kern Dog Striving for excellence Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 18,493 Granite Bay CA	Quote: so as far as stage 2 & stage 3 I have manual steering would this make a diff on this app & it sounds like the diff is more firmness to the wheel not like stock where it feels loose & oversteer easy like all mopar in the era.chevy always drove tight to me & mopar was loose feeling so it sounds like with there box it changes that is this correct also did you guys buy a complete box or the kit & doit yourself could be a big diff if you do not know whats going on. I am having trouble interpreting this garbled mess. Didnt you take English in school?

Re: FIRM FEEL INC. SUSPENSION [Re: Kern Dog] #937954 02/27/11 06:46 PM 02/27/11 06:46 PM
Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,212 QLD Australia Keith Black® pro stock
Keith Black® pro stock Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,212 QLD Australia	Quote: Quote: so as far as stage 2 & stage 3 I have manual steering would this make a diff on this app & it sounds like the diff is more firmness to the wheel not like stock where it feels loose & oversteer easy like all mopar in the era.chevy always drove tight to me & mopar was loose feeling so it sounds like with there box it changes that is this correct also did you guys buy a complete box or the kit & doit yourself could be a big diff if you do not know whats going on. I am having trouble interpreting this garbled mess. Didnt you take English in school? -------------------------------- Darren Beale Keith Black Racing Engines®

Re: FIRM FEEL INC. SUSPENSION [Re: Keith Black®] #937955 02/27/11 06:58 PM 02/27/11 06:58 PM
Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 204 washington A AB&E enthusiast
AB&E enthusiast A Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 204 washington	Sorry it must of been the part when I said all old mopars drive loose & chevrolets drive tight. I think thats where you guys got confused. so I am sorry. My question is what is the big difference with the way a firm feel box feels& drives compared to a stocker? Again I am sorry for confusing you on the matter that chevys always drive better than mopars with no firm feel box thank you for all your help

Re: FIRM FEEL INC. SUSPENSION [Re: Desmond] #937956 02/27/11 08:42 PM 02/27/11 08:42 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 30,995 Oregon A AndyF I Win
AndyF I Win A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 30,995 Oregon	I use their stuff all the time. Dick Ross at Firm Feel has been racing Mopar vehicles for a long time. He has pretty much seen it all.

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