Re: Help me build an 87 octane small block stroker
[Re: kielbasa]
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02/26/11 01:56 PM
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I'm not sure of the exact specs, but your rods seem a little long for that much stroke..
You must have a 1.33 CD I'm guessing and thats if your deck is exactly 9.600...
I'm not trying to be a smarta$$, just making sure you have the right stuff before you get too in depth in your project...
Also I am just speaking from using diamond pistons. Theirs were 1.45 cd off the shelf IIRC. I used them in a previous build.
Last edited by R5P7Duster; 02/26/11 02:25 PM.
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Re: Help me build an 87 octane small block stroker
[Re: kielbasa]
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02/26/11 11:51 PM
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RyanJ
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Hi guys, here's the parts I have so far.... 360 block 4.060 bore ('71 casting) already blueprinted and ready for assembly 4.125 crank 6.2 rods zero deck pistons (with 17cc dish)
would like to go hyd roller cam and aluminum heads also will be some type of efi....
engine will be going into AAR with auto and 3.91's... car has power brakes would love to have 500hp/500tq, but realize that might be an optimistic goal, more importantly to be happy on 87 octane E10 send me some thoughts on how to finish this thing up (cam specs, comp ratio, heads, etc)- Thanks!
The 500TQ won't even be a challenge... That's just a mathematical given @ this point. & 500 HP would'nt be too tuff either. Edelbrock head, little clean up work & mild hyd roller & you'll be right there. Compression ratio for 87 motor will be dictated by cam secs. Cam specs dictated by the power brakes, converter size/stall etc.
We just had a 393" Ford trick Flow head motor on dyno the other night & ran it on 87 octane after tuning it on 92, just to see what it did. 165 cyl pressure, it was fine on 87. @ 34 degrees. I run 87 almost exclusively in my INDY EZ head 440 @ 9.7:1 242/246 Hyd roller motor. ~600 HP, 38 degrees, it's never detonated. I also used to have a SB 410" Edelbrock that I ran on 87 in a daily driver... I think that one was around 9.7:1, & cam was in the 236 @ .050 range on 110 LSA in @ 106. That thing had 17" vacuum, as I ran power brakes in that truck... put like 5000 miles on it & sold it because fuel economy sucked.
Really only stuff we build for 87 Octane is daily driver type deal... that's where the cost difference between 87 & 92 really shows up. On the weekend toys, usually do a 92 motor.
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Re: Help me build an 87 octane small block stroker
[Re: Dunnuck Racing]
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03/07/11 01:07 PM
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I would not be concerned about running the 92 octane, if you build the motor with the same cam, heads, cubes... but add another point of compression and corespondingly higher octane fuel you will gain some MPG from the increased compression, it makes it very close to the same price to operate the car and you get a little more power to boot. MPG is mostly based on part throttle cruising and higher compression really helps part throttle efficency.
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Re: Help me build an 87 octane small block stroker
[Re: kielbasa]
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03/07/11 05:27 PM
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I suppose it's a personal preference, but to me, the octane rating isn't what's important...it's mileage! with a difference of .20 per gallon, a 15 gallon fill up is only $3.50 different with regular vs premium. no matter the price of gas...premium is always .20 higher than regular...at least here in Ohio. so, $3.50 more per fill-up. if I can't manage that once a week...then I shouldn't be driving any type of toy/fun ride at all, and need a 35+mpg economy car. now, getting 10 mpg or 15 mpg with that 10 gallons is a huge difference in operating cost! Good luck on your build though..this sounds neat...500 hp daily driver on 87 octane!
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