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Re: stealth head users please step inside [Re: Kam*Kuda] #924847
02/10/11 10:46 AM
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3 years on mine.I changed springs,retainers.and keepers because I run .588 solid 4 speed.Used the Felpro marine gaskets.My machinist back cut the valves and lapped them a bit.He also opened them up some.I run 3/8 alloy push rods and they just clear.The overhang has been fixed.The marine gaskets fit fine with my heads as did the 19 gaskets.Mine is street/strip and gets beat on quite a bit.Rocky


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Re: stealth head users please step inside [Re: therocks] #924848
02/10/11 11:01 AM
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mckinney texas
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i think im sold on the stealths! gasket issue sounds fixed now and all other points are noted. they sound better than the eddys FOR MY CAR. the straight plugs are the ticket! thanks for all the posts! badass cars here too!


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Re: stealth head users please step inside [Re: shoebox] #924849
02/10/11 06:23 PM
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You may already know this but 440source is having a special on them through Feb. 14, free shipping in lower 48, so if you're thinking about it, now would be the time to call them. I'm pretty impressed, a whole page of responses and no negatives to speak of.


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Re: stealth head users please step inside [Re: 23T Hemmee] #924850
02/10/11 06:28 PM
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Indiana
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Everybody's busy in the Fram bash and 'China and Everywhere Else' threads...

Re: stealth head users please step inside [Re: Fury Fan] #924851
02/10/11 06:35 PM
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Everybody's busy in the Fram bash and 'China and Everywhere Else' threads...



Lol!

Re: stealth head users please step inside [Re: shoebox] #924852
02/11/11 01:27 AM
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I have a set from the first batch on my car. Replaced the springs and retainers to match my Cam. I used ROL headgaskets HG31130HT.

Re: stealth head users please step inside [Re: Azzkikrcuda] #924853
02/11/11 02:15 AM
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Got them on my mildly built 440. I had them checked over and flowed. I can post my OOTB flow numbers if you like. I did what a lot of the fella's on here did, checked over changed out retainers and put them on.

Mike


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Re: stealth head users please step inside [Re: shoebox] #924854
02/11/11 09:17 AM
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i think im sold on the stealths! gasket issue sounds fixed now and all other points are noted. they sound better than the eddys FOR MY CAR. the straight plugs are the ticket! thanks for all the posts! badass cars here too!




You will love them up to about 25 1/8 mile passes then a valve seat falls out hangs the valve open breaks the valve head off motor eats it self up, you call 440 source and they tell you sorry about that.Good luck....

Re: stealth head users please step inside [Re: Fury Fan] #924855
02/11/11 10:51 AM
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Everybody's busy in the Fram bash and 'China and Everywhere Else' threads...




No he already made the decision to buy the heads before he made the thread, just needed to be talked into it ...

Re: stealth head users please step inside [Re: JohnRR] #924856
02/11/11 11:34 AM
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oh boy


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Re: stealth head users please step inside [Re: shoebox] #924857
02/11/11 11:40 AM
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You will love them up to about 25 1/8 mile passes then a valve seat falls out hangs the valve open breaks the valve head off motor eats it self up, you call 440 source and they tell you sorry about that.Good luck....

wheres the pics of this happening to you?

and johnRR i pretty much did decide to buy them before the thread.. but if there was 90% negative comments i might thought otherwise. the heads are going to be checked out and changed up. what heads do you have? and what are they on?


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Re: stealth head users please step inside [Re: shoebox] #924858
02/11/11 12:00 PM
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You will find that John will be right on top of any Stealth Head post. He just hates to admitt that they are good not great but will work for anyone that is looking for a up grade from the stone age of 906s and 915s.THERE are better heads out there for all out race cars. You will spend thousands more. I have a set from the first batch with valve spring seat pressure of 245 and open pressure at 585. I have made well over 100 pass's with zero problems. Can anyone on here guaranty that you will not have any problems? Heck no! You could buy a set of heads from any of the rest of the manufactors and get a bad set. One point that needs to be addressed is coustumer care thu.Thats the true measurement of a company.
Ask John how many sets he has bought or put on motors that he built?


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Re: stealth head users please step inside [Re: slippery440] #924859
02/11/11 02:17 PM
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You will find that John will be right on top of any Stealth Head post. He just hates to admitt that they are good not great but will work for anyone that is looking for a up grade from the stone age of 906s and 915s.THERE are better heads out there for all out race cars. You will spend thousands more. I have a set from the first batch with valve spring seat pressure of 245 and open pressure at 585. I have made well over 100 pass's with zero problems. Can anyone on here guaranty that you will not have any problems? Heck no! You could buy a set of heads from any of the rest of the manufactors and get a bad set. One point that needs to be addressed is coustumer care thu.Thats the true measurement of a company.
Ask John how many sets he has bought or put on motors that he built?







Re: stealth head users please step inside [Re: JohnRR] #924860
02/11/11 02:44 PM
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Have you considered a set of iron Indy SR or EZ heads? They don't save the weight that an aluminum head would, but they both have more potential than the Stealth or RPM heads (I'm not really sure what type of power you're planning on). I haven't looked at the Indy site in a while, but my aluminum SRs cost about $1800, so I'd guess than iron ones would be around $1300. The down-side to the SRs is that you have to buy the TTI step headers (or go custom).
...just a suggestion. Good luck on the build.


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Re: stealth head users please step inside [Re: 1968RR] #924861
02/11/11 02:50 PM
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Have you considered a set of iron Indy SR or EZ heads? They don't save the weight that an aluminum head would, but they both have more potential than the Stealth or RPM heads (I'm not really sure what type of power you're planning on). I haven't looked at the Indy site in a while, but my aluminum SRs cost about $1800, so I'd guess than iron ones would be around $1300. The down-side to the SRs is that you have to buy the TTI step headers (or go custom).
...just a suggestion. Good luck on the build.




I don't believe they make those heads in iron....I am only aware of the 440-1's in Iron, but I could be wrong.

Re: stealth head users please step inside [Re: Quicksilver440] #924862
02/11/11 03:22 PM
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I don't believe they makes those heads in iron....I am only aware of the 440-1's in Iron, but I could be wrong.



I'm positive that they used to make iron SRs (they may not anymore). As far as the EZs go, I've never seen an iron set, I just figured that they might have made them.


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Re: stealth head users please step inside [Re: Chassisman] #924863
02/11/11 04:14 PM
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Between a rock & a hard place
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cool nice car BTW


THANKS...Thats his 2300.00 drag car....it was 1300.00 til he got the Stealths....LOL
He's been saving parts for 5 years to build it....cost him 1300.00 and ran 11.60's...The Stealths OOTB picked up .3 for him.




Gee, even I could afford that! If he wants to sell, I'll give him a good return on his investment!!

Re: stealth head users please step inside [Re: cudadoug] #924864
02/11/11 05:02 PM
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i thought indy didnt make any iron heads anymore?


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Re: stealth head users please step inside [Re: shoebox] #924865
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You will love them up to about 25 1/8 mile passes then a valve seat falls out hangs the valve open breaks the valve head off motor eats it self up, you call 440 source and they tell you sorry about that.Good luck....

wheres the pics of this happening to you?

and johnRR i pretty much did decide to buy them before the thread.. but if there was 90% negative comments i might thought otherwise. the heads are going to be checked out and changed up. what heads do you have? and what are they on?





I would not and do not own a set,but did see with my own eyes what happens when the valve seat falls
out.Like I said good luck to you if you decide to buy them.

Re: stealth head users please step inside [Re: shoebox] #924866
02/11/11 06:19 PM
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I have sold over 25 sets of Stealth heads and yes there have been a few issues, had a couple heads crack thru the outside lower bolt hole, had 1 break a shaft stand off. BUT 440 Source warrantied every single one, and the one that broke the stand was almost a year old. Try and get Indy or Edelbrock to do that.

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