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440 Stroker Kit? #913173 01/24/11 10:12 PM 01/24/11 10:12 PM
Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 104 Canada F Flatblack OP member
Flatblack OP member F Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 104 Canada	Long time no chat?? Hows things going eh? Well I have my block ready to be decked and borred. I have been looking into buying a stroker kit for my 440 block. I am just not sure which route I should venture down, 440source route, the Mancini route, or other 440 stroker kit routes etc.? Any info would be great to help me decide where to blow my savings!! Thankx, just a student trying to save a buck! flatblack68@gmail.com

Re: 440 Stroker Kit? [Re: Flatblack] #913174 01/24/11 11:02 PM 01/24/11 11:02 PM
Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 643 southern conn 1 1969gtx mopar
1969gtx mopar 1 Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 643 southern conn	nick at compu-flow very knowledgable i have purchased 2 kit from him 528 kits http://www.compu-flow.com/ 1965 A/FX Plymouth 9.50 et @139 mph 1965 A/FX awb plymouth flashback [email]10.26@129mph[/email] mph on pump gas 426 hemi 1969 GTX Hemi 4 speed 12.50 et @ 112mph in F.A.S.T TRIM 1970 GTX 4406pac 4 speed 11.05 @126.9 mph in F.A.S.T TRIM http://www.AFXER.com

Re: 440 Stroker Kit? [Re: Flatblack] #913175 01/24/11 11:07 PM 01/24/11 11:07 PM
Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,648 GA Boosted master
Boosted master Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,648 GA	I have the 512 from 440 source and love it... 2011 RAM3500 1967 Fastback Barracuda with some go fast goodies.

Re: 440 Stroker Kit? [Re: Boosted] #913176 01/24/11 11:31 PM 01/24/11 11:31 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,062 Amherst,NY challengermike super stock
challengermike super stock Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,062 Amherst,NY	My kit was only crank and rod made by cat,i bought off the shelf KB pistons.

Re: 440 Stroker Kit? [Re: 1969gtx] #913177 01/24/11 11:37 PM 01/24/11 11:37 PM
Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 10,555 Rittman Ohio fourgearsavoy I Live Here
fourgearsavoy I Live Here Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 10,555 Rittman Ohio	Quote: nick at compu-flow very knowledgable i have purchased 2 kit from him 528 kits http://www.compu-flow.com/ Nick will set you up with whatever budget you have and will offer advice on heads and cam for your combo Gus 6436995-burnoutpicturegus.JPG (53 downloads) 64 Plymouth Savoy 493 Indy EZ's by Nick at Compu-Flow 5-Speed Richmond faceplate Liberty box Dana 60

Re: 440 Stroker Kit? [Re: fourgearsavoy] #913178 01/25/11 12:11 AM 01/25/11 12:11 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,948 British Columbia C chrisf master
chrisf master C Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,948 British Columbia	i see ohio crankshaft sells as well. anyone ever buy their stuff?

Re: 440 Stroker Kit? [Re: Flatblack] #913179 01/25/11 01:11 AM 01/25/11 01:11 AM
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 8,882 Ontario, Canada S Stanton Don't question me!
Stanton Don't question me! S Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 8,882 Ontario, Canada	I have the 440Source 528 kit and had no issues with it at all. HOWEVER, do youself a big favour and have your block sonic checked first to make sure it can take the bore you want to go with AND have the deck heights checked first as well. My "stock" block ended up having the decks below spec before decking so I'm having to run a tighter quench than I would have liked. Had I checked that before ordering my kit I could have ordered a different piston and not had an issue. Also, go with aluminum main caps. Yes, its more work, yes its more money and yes, most engine builders will tell you they aren't necessary BUT they're used to building Chevy's. Aluminum caps in the RB is cheap insurance. The 440Source ones seem decent for the price. Doing it over again I'd go with the 512 instead of the 528.

Re: 440 Stroker Kit? [Re: Stanton] #913180 01/25/11 01:41 AM 01/25/11 01:41 AM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,041 Lincoln Nebraska R RapidRobert Circle Track
RapidRobert Circle Track R Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,041 Lincoln Nebraska	Quote: Doing it over again I'd go with the 512 instead of the 528. considering one in the future. why would you have gone w lesser cubes? More compression height for longevity? live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth

Re: 440 Stroker Kit? [Re: RapidRobert] #913181 01/25/11 02:22 AM 01/25/11 02:22 AM
Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 11,632 SHELBY TWP,,MICHIGAN 72N96RR I LOVE WEDGIES
72N96RR I LOVE WEDGIES Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 11,632 SHELBY TWP,,MICHIGAN	Can you use the 400 block for either the 512 or 528 kit?? 1972 Road Runner / GTX 440 4spd Dana 3.54 Just about to turn 26K original miles.. A boat, a GMC truck, some Craftsman Tools, LOTS of Zombie Protection, and a few Goldfish.. If you love someone set them free.. If they come back it means nobody else wanted them either..!!

Re: 440 Stroker Kit? [Re: 72N96RR] #913182 01/25/11 10:05 AM 01/25/11 10:05 AM
Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,648 GA Boosted master
Boosted master Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,648 GA	I am using the stock 440 block with my 512... No issues at all. went together like a stock 440 would... 2011 RAM3500 1967 Fastback Barracuda with some go fast goodies.

Re: 440 Stroker Kit? [Re: 1969gtx] #913183 01/25/11 12:02 PM 01/25/11 12:02 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,497 N.E. Ohio K KillerBee master
KillerBee master K Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,497 N.E. Ohio	Quote: nick at compu-flow very knowledgable i have purchased 2 kit from him 528 kits http://www.compu-flow.com/ Looks like they're having a stroker shortblock sale http://www.compu-flow.com/shortblock.htm

Re: 440 Stroker Kit? [Re: KillerBee] #913184 01/25/11 01:04 PM 01/25/11 01:04 PM
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 8,882 Ontario, Canada S Stanton Don't question me!
Stanton Don't question me! S Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 8,882 Ontario, Canada	Quote: considering one in the future. why would you have gone w lesser cubes? More compression height for longevity? Comp. ht. wasn't a concern ... its a stroker motor !!! Primarily so as not to have to bore the block .055 over. The 528 uses a 4.375 stroke crank. I could have gone with a .030 or .040 bore but then the bore would have been less than the stroke. Going with the 4.25 stroke crank you can go .030 over and the bore is larger than the stroke. This, by the way, yeilds a 505" The 528 uses a 4.375 stroke crank so an external oil system is almost a must. Clearancing the block for the longer stroke was no big deal at all but it did need it. And no matter what I ran the numbers through, the 512/505 made the same HP and Torque as the 528 (which turns out to be 526 with the .055 overbore).

Re: 440 Stroker Kit? [Re: Flatblack] #913185 01/25/11 02:38 PM 01/25/11 02:38 PM
Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,107 Spring Valley ,Ca. moparsquid super stock
moparsquid super stock Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,107 Spring Valley ,Ca.	I vote for the 440 source,I have the 500 strkr kit and love it.

Re: 440 Stroker Kit? [Re: moparsquid] #913186 01/25/11 03:35 PM 01/25/11 03:35 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 524 J Jamey mopar
Jamey mopar J Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 524	I pieced mine together. I used a K1 crank, Compstar rods and Diamond pistons. I think I got everything from Dram here on moparts. I will say what a torque monster. I also did the 4.25 crank so I didn't have to go with external oiling.

Re: 440 Stroker Kit? [Re: chrisf] #913187 01/25/11 03:46 PM 01/25/11 03:46 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 996 Queens, New York H Harley super stock
Harley super stock H Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 996 Queens, New York	Quote: i see ohio crankshaft sells as well. anyone ever buy their stuff? I have the 4.25 crank form ohio. It checked out good, and it's been in my motor for 5 years now.

Re: 440 Stroker Kit? [Re: Harley] #913188 01/25/11 10:34 PM 01/25/11 10:34 PM
Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 773 Crofton, Ky. R rattler super stock
rattler super stock R Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 773 Crofton, Ky.	I just ordered the 512 kit and heads today from 440 source. Ken told me the 512 was a better choice than the 493 that i was going to go with.The 512 should yeild about 10.25 compression where as the 493 was going to be about 11.5. 1957 Dodge truck, Snakeskin Green with a little stroker motor. 1964 Plymouth Savoy wagon ( my new project)

Re: 440 Stroker Kit? [Re: rattler] #913189 01/25/11 11:52 PM 01/25/11 11:52 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,402 Wichita,KS B Blakcharger440 top fuel
Blakcharger440 top fuel B Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,402 Wichita,KS	Quote: I just ordered the 512 kit and heads today from 440 source. Ken told me the 512 was a better choice than the 493 that i was going to go with.The 512 should yeild about 10.25 compression where as the 493 was going to be about 11.5. I have that exact kit and heads in my 440! It performs really good! But now I want more power!

Re: 440 Stroker Kit? [Re: Blakcharger440] #913190 01/26/11 12:16 AM 01/26/11 12:16 AM
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 8,882 Ontario, Canada S Stanton Don't question me!
Stanton Don't question me! S Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 8,882 Ontario, Canada	Quote: I just ordered the 512 kit and heads today from 440 source. Ken told me the 512 was a better choice than the 493 that i was going to go with.The 512 should yeild about 10.25 compression where as the 493 was going to be about 11.5. Call them back and upgrade to the CNC'd heads (if its within your budget)- otherwise you're no further ahead than using a stock 906! When you get the heads you'll DEFINATELY want to upgrade the retainers and locks and possibly the springs depending on your cam choice. Did you get the "balanced" assy. - worth the few extra bucks! Also, don't be disappointed if/when the pins don't fit the rods ... this is about the only thing that needs attention.

Re: 440 Stroker Kit? [Re: Stanton] #913191 01/26/11 06:08 PM 01/26/11 06:08 PM
Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 104 Canada F Flatblack OP member
Flatblack OP member F Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 104 Canada	So..... How would I go about explaining the deck height issue to the machine shop? Is there some sort of specs for deck height that I need to know about or will the machine shop have sufficient knowledge? I am only going to bore the minimum I can because my stock block is only .006 tapered, the machine shop said I could put it back together and run it like that and it would be okay, I figured hell I got it apart already..... Thankx, just a student trying to save a buck! flatblack68@gmail.com

Re: 440 Stroker Kit? [Re: Flatblack] #913192 01/26/11 08:24 PM 01/26/11 08:24 PM
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 8,882 Ontario, Canada S Stanton Don't question me!
Stanton Don't question me! S Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 8,882 Ontario, Canada	Deck height ... 1/2 the crank stroke + rod pin-to-pin length + piston comp ht. + whatever the "advertised" piston deck height is (usually a - #). All these #'s will be right beside the 440source kit # you ordered. i.e. 4.25/2 + 7.1 + 1.43 -.010 = 10.645" deck ht. You need a block with a minimum of about .010 MORE than that so it can be properly squared and leveled.

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