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Another How fast will it go... #901767
01/10/11 10:54 PM
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Here's the combo, what do you think? I know the downfalls in the combo for what I want to do with it, but as it sits, what do you guys predict?

360 smallblock chrysler stock stroke .030" over KB pistons 10.5:1 CR with 0.040" quench
IMM prepped RHS iron heads flow peaks 271 at 550" on the int, 190 at 550" exh
Bullet hydraulic roller cam 243/251 at .50 duration, lift is 562/562 on a 109 LSA with 4 degrees advance ground in on a 1.5 rocker (not sure if i should step up to the 1.6 and getting 600/600 out of it). Exh lobe is considering light nitrous use in the future as well
Was told rpm range would be 1500-6200, but possibly higher?

Edelbrock RPM air gap port matched with a Holley 750HP on top
1-5/8" headers into a 3" exhaust with Borla race mufflers and x pipe

The car weighs 3400lbs with me in it and is getting a dana with 4.10 gears
Car has a 28x12.5 ET street bias ply and has the full caltrac setup out back, with calvert 90/10's up front, 6cyl torsion bars and adjustable upper control arms

Transmission is a a chrysler 4 speed 2.66 first transmission with a centerforce dual friction clutch and a v-gate shifter with two step (hopefully will help with consistency some and not missing gears)...Im a pretty good driver and at the track the gas will be matted 110% of the time


lets hear it! hopefully my hopes for it are close to what it should run

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Re: Another How fast will it go... [Re: mshred] #901768
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the weight is what concerns me, i would say at 3000lbs thats a 10 sec car, at 3400 id say 10.50-10.70


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Re: Another How fast will it go... [Re: n20mstr] #901769
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11.70's NA

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Re: Another How fast will it go... [Re: n20mstr] #901770
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the weight is what concerns me, i would say at 3000lbs thats a 10 sec car, at 3400 id say 10.50-10.70




thats generous lol unless thats on the gas? I shoulda made it clear to everyone that im looking for NA predictions

its a heavy one with me in it, but its all steel, full interior street car...only light weight thing are the wheels and the 4door back seat (Weighs nothing!)

please keep them coming guys, I need to get an idea if im on the right track

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Re: Another How fast will it go... [Re: thedriver] #901771
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Re: Another How fast will it go... [Re: Quicktree] #901772
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ooops i meant to say 10.90's at 3000 then 11.50 - 11.70 at 3400

work on the weight man.


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Re: Another How fast will it go... [Re: mshred] #901773
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Your weight is about 100 lbs lighter than a Challenger I had and with a much more tame 360, I went 11.70, but I had 4.56 gear, 28x10.5 slicks, auto, 3500 converter, home ported stock heads, .540 flat solid, 9:1 compression.

If you can row those gears, I would think 11.4's.

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Re: Another How fast will it go... [Re: Crizila] #901775
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4 speed...

how good can you shift?

and getting the car to launch without bogging it.


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Re: Another How fast will it go... [Re: 70AARcuda] #901776
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4 speed...

how good can you shift?

and getting the car to launch without bogging it.




I can hit the gears pretty good, and the v-gate is there to try and eliminate missed shifts

I know my gear ratio is going to kill me though....it being a stickshift with only 4.10's, im hoping if i launch high enough it won't bog, but Im not sure...not many stick combos to compare too that are mopar

Id go to a higher numerical gear, but this car sees alot of street use and the 4.10's with a 28" tire are already pushing it for the highway

what do ya think?

Re: Another How fast will it go... [Re: mshred] #901777
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The motor is gonna make enough power to push the car well into the 11's. Whether or not you can do you job will be the biggest factor.


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Re: Another How fast will it go... [Re: mshred] #901778
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Re: Another How fast will it go... [Re: MR_P_BODY] #901779
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I'm thinking you could go easy 11.40's if it hooks, I ran 11.70's all night long with a 4 speed a-body with a W2 340 isky solid.....30 years ago.

Cam spec's look good for what you are doing, I like the 1.6 rockers.


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Re: Another How fast will it go... [Re: Streetwize] #901780
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I'm thinking you could go easy 11.40's if it hooks, I ran 11.70's all night long with a 4 speed a-body with a W2 340 isky solid.....30 years ago.

Cam spec's look good for what you are doing, I like the 1.6 rockers.




my combo faster than a W2 combo? not questioning, just surprises me...How high were you spinning that 340 with the solid?

A member here has offerred to shim my hydraulic lifters in combination with a spring using about 150 open seat pressure so that i can rev up to 7k if needed

Re: Another How fast will it go... [Re: mshred] #901781
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Spun it 7200, eventually 7800 going to 4.56 gears....big block boyz HATED me back then

I doubt my old first get W2's flowed much better than your RHS's, I was barely 18 and all I did was a bowl clean up and VJ on them. I eventually got them worked to flow around 290. When I detuned it to my daily work car it still ran high 11's switching to 3.91's and an ultradyne hydraulic 231/239 flat tappet.

your ET is going to be in the 60'....if you get a 360 to hook just right you just row it through and she'll et.

Didn't understand your open/seat comment...did you mean 150 on the seat?

Last edited by Streetwize; 01/11/11 10:48 AM.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjXcf95e6v0
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Spun it 7200, eventually 7800 going to 4.56 gears....big block boyz HATED me back then

I doubt my old first get W2's flowed much better than your RHS's, I was barely 18 and all I did was a bowl clean up and VJ on them. I eventually got them worked to flow around 290. When I detuned it to my daily work car it still ran high 11's switching to 3.91's and an ultradyne hydraulic 231/239 flat tappet.

your ET is going to be in the 60'....if you get a 360 to hook just right you just row it through and she'll et.

Didn't understand your open/seat comment...did you mean 150 on the seat?




cool...yes I meant 150 on the seat

please keep the predictions coming guys!

Re: Another How fast will it go... [Re: mshred] #901783
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You don't need to shim the lifters...run the heads they way you get them and run the lifters untouched.
Run 10w40 oil and let it eat. I've run hyd. rollers with our RHS heads up to 7000rpm and still not had any lifter pump.
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I personally think 11.90s. If it had a stroker crank id say 11.40s.

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Re: Another How fast will it go... [Re: dirty magnum] #901786
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I think it should go 11.50 or better pretty easy.
You weigh 500 more than mine and have enough power there to at least run a tenth better. Check my sig.


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