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holley 850,actually its Bigs 950.idles great till it goes in gear then it gradually dies.also it doesnt matter how you turn the air screws it makes no diff in the idle.it currently has 70 idle jets in it could that be too big?

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Will the engine die if you screw the mixture screws
all the way in... are the blades closed enough so
you are really on the idle circuit

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Hey Al......couple things....

*air mixture screws at 1 1/2 out Primarys..1 out secondarys
*initial timing at idle? or locked?
*do you have the secondarys cracked open a little bit..it helps
*070 idle air bleeds are good...

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the front blades are closed and the back has just a little sguare of the slot showing.i only screwed the adj.in one at a time but all the way in made no diff.

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Hey Al......couple things....

*air mixture screws at 1 1/2 out Primarys..1 out secondarys
*initial timing at idle? or locked?
*do you have the secondarys cracked open a little bit..it helps
*070 idle air bleeds are good...

Jesse @ BIGS!!





air mixture screws at 1 1/2 out Primarys..1 out secondarys
Is that like a standard setting or is it different from car to car?

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It may not be enough for your situation as there may be other issues. But I've always found that a race carb will idle best when mixture screws are turned out another 1/4 - 1/2 turn from best idle setting in gear.

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i really cant recheck my timming because the tape came off but its a MSD billit dist with the black bushing and a hard and soft spring.its been set up this way firever so my initial should be close.

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It sounds like to me that it could be several things happening, one or both. First thing it sounds like is , if your running one, the power valve is opening loading up the motor, the other things is the mechanical advance is retarding slowly, the lower the speed the more the retard I have had carbs.( AFB, Eddy,BG and Holleys) with big cams that would idle when the idle mixture screws where in from 3/4 to 1/4 turns from all in. I just thought about your idle and high speed bleeds, are they clean? Or goop up some


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i went tru the carb and blew out all the passages before inst.so can PROB iliminate glogging.im going to double check this timming to elem. that.

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i really cant recheck my timming because the tape came off but its a MSD billit dist with the black bushing and a hard and soft spring.its been set up this way firever so my initial should be close.


if your not sure on timing you are wasting your time trying to tune the carb..

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Check for vacuum leak?

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i really cant recheck my timming because the tape came off but its a MSD billit dist with the black bushing and a hard and soft spring.its been set up this way firever so my initial should be close.





AL,yer KILLIN me You just had that out,TDC would have been verified during reASSembly.Even a frikin' chalk line would have worked with a "dial back" timing light


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i really cant recheck my timming because the tape came off but its a MSD billit dist with the black bushing and a hard and soft spring.its been set up this way firever so my initial should be close.


if your not sure on timing you are wasting your time trying to tune the carb..


i had it close on the stand but figered id fine tune it afer i got it all together but my timing tape got scraped off(dont ask)and now i got no way to find exact TDC again.

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i really cant recheck my timming because the tape came off but its a MSD billit dist with the black bushing and a hard and soft spring.its been set up this way firever so my initial should be close.


if your not sure on timing you are wasting your time trying to tune the carb..


i had it close on the stand but figered id fine tune it afer i got it all together but my timing tape got scraped off(dont ask)and now i got no way to find exact TDC again.


close only works when using had grenades and horse shoes

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i really cant recheck my timming because the tape came off but its a MSD billit dist with the black bushing and a hard and soft spring.its been set up this way firever so my initial should be close.


if your not sure on timing you are wasting your time trying to tune the carb..


i had it close on the stand but figered id fine tune it afer i got it all together but my timing tape got scraped off(dont ask)and now i got no way to find exact TDC again.


close only works when using had grenades and horse shoes


ya got a spare grenade?!!!!

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i really cant recheck my timming because the tape came off but its a MSD billit dist with the black bushing and a hard and soft spring.its been set up this way firever so my initial should be close.





AL,yer KILLIN me You just had that out,TDC would have been verified during reASSembly.Even a frikin' chalk line would have worked with a "dial back" timing light


i did all that but somehow puttin the motor back in the timing tab got pushed down and when i cranked the motor over to inst the vert bolts it scaped it all off and the balancer thats on it had no etched marks.

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i really cant recheck my timming because the tape came off but its a MSD billit dist with the black bushing and a hard and soft spring.its been set up this way firever so my initial should be close.





AL,yer KILLIN me You just had that out,TDC would have been verified during reASSembly.Even a frikin' chalk line would have worked with a "dial back" timing light


i did all that but somehow puttin the motor back in the timing tab got pushed down and when i cranked the motor over to inst the vert bolts it scaped it all off and the balancer thats on it had no etched marks.




If you KNOW the TDC was correct with the damper just
get another tape and put it on and MARK the damper
with a few degree marks

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i really cant recheck my timming because the tape came off but its a MSD billit dist with the black bushing and a hard and soft spring.its been set up this way firever so my initial should be close.





AL,yer KILLIN me You just had that out,TDC would have been verified during reASSembly.Even a frikin' chalk line would have worked with a "dial back" timing light


i did all that but somehow puttin the motor back in the timing tab got pushed down and when i cranked the motor over to inst the vert bolts it scaped it all off and the balancer thats on it had no etched marks.




If you KNOW the TDC was correct with the damper just
get another tape and put it on and MARK the damper
with a few degree marks



the marks on the damper were lazer etched on YEARS ago and faded completly away,hense the tape.

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