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This thread let us know that Dave's cars are suspect now. He doesn't need any "authority" to let him do as he damn well pleases. Make fake stuff? Not a problem if that is what he wants to do.

We all know that he, nor anybody else, would ever lie to the DMV, etc when they come calling. That has never been done before, right?

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how is putting a "re-issued" fender tag on a car illegal? Would it be just as illegal to not have one. Pretty sure the VIN is the only thing any MVA,DMV or whatever your state is cares about.

"to match my build sheet with no intention of it ever being passed of as a real tag along"

What is illegal about that? Is it the same for somebody that has a tag that is in very bad shape to re-pop it? Guy spends $$$ on a resto, old tag looks llike swiss cheese, guy orders a re-pop tag based of bad tag.....

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This thread let us know that Dave's cars are suspect now. He doesn't need any "authority" to let him do as he damn well pleases. Make fake stuff? Not a problem if that is what he wants to do.

We all know that he, nor anybody else, would ever lie to the DMV, etc when they come calling. That has never been done before, right?

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how is putting a "re-issued" fender tag on a car illegal? Would it be just as illegal to not have one. Pretty sure the VIN is the only thing any MVA,DMV or whatever your state is cares about.

"to match my build sheet with no intention of it ever being passed of as a real tag along"

What is illegal about that? Is it the same for somebody that has a tag that is in very bad shape to re-pop it? Guy spends $$$ on a resto, old tag looks llike swiss cheese, guy orders a re-pop tag based of bad tag.....

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This thread let us know that Dave's cars are suspect now. He doesn't need any "authority" to let him do as he damn well pleases. Make fake stuff? Not a problem if that is what he wants to do.

We all know that he, nor anybody else, would ever lie to the DMV, etc when they come calling. That has never been done before, right?

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Lets just get this out of the way so we can get back to the question I asked earlier. My cars all started out as Ford Pintos that I have re-bodied and got fake titles for. All the above mentioned firms are in cahoots to lie and steal from anyone they come in contact with. We are all just a bunch of lying cheats!

Once again.....by whose delegated authority are Galen and Barry commissioned to fabricate "laws" which are accepted as the guidelines and regulations for the Hobby?

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As long as we got that straight

Who gives the authority to those that make fake stuff to do so and then have cars being passed around that aren't legit? Even people who are up front about things die someday, leaving others to do as they please, with no authority...

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Dave mentioned having to answer to the boys in blue as some sort of certification that he doesn't make fake stuff.

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I am still waiting to hear from what authority these guys are operating under!

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"Badges? We don't need no stinkin' badges!"



Lighten up.

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ECS Dave keeps asking who gives these people the authority. The people do. They don't know everything but they know a lot. Some use their knowledge purely to advance the hobby and others use it as a business. People figure out who can help them figure out what their car is all about and sometimes what to look for when they have questions about a vehicle they are purchasing. Anyone who runs a web site about mopars or other kinds of cars, or anything else for that matter, can become an "expert". I have people contact me all the time about Panther Pink cars because of my web site. I'm not as deep into the numbers as others are and I don't keep track of the market that closely but I can offer those who contact me advice on what they should do to protect themselves from bogus claims and bogus cars.

I've even had "experts" contact me for information that they don't have. I'm all for sharing knowledge but you never know who is on the other end of the e-mail and what their intentions are. I remember a case where a guy kept wanting information about a car on my site that the owner wanted to keep private. After asking a few times nicely, he started to try to bully me to give it to him. People like that can go jump in a lake for all I care.

Barry has every right to help or not help whoever he chooss. He is not a highered authority and since we weren't a witness to the phone call or what transpired, it's between him and the OP. 'nuff said.

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Well said Nick.

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Dave mentioned having to answer to the boys in blue as some sort of certification that he doesn't make fake stuff.

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Yes....it is called due diligence to a program! It is about going through the proper channels to be classified as an authority or "expert". Why don't some of you guys go out and direct traffic without the proper approval. Go fabricate and make money without being licensed or certified to do so. Walk in a School and try taking over a class while claiming to be a teacher....WHEN YOU'RE NOT! See how many things like this you can get away with before someone arrests you for impersonating a [fill in the blank]! They have set themselves up with a bunch of self righteous rules and everyone has given their God given rights and common sense over to them. Wake up people! Most of you know more than these guys know. I have learned and have seen more facts from some of the members here than you could shake a stick at. Give yourselves some credit! They have no more right to lay down the "Law" than anybody else that is involved in this Hobby!

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I get that Dave, I just don't see why you have an issue with Barry or whoever distributing information so each of us can make our own call as to what a given car is. Seems to be hitting home for some reason with you.

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It isn't just the tag.

Dave mentioned having to answer to the boys in blue as some sort of certification that he doesn't make fake stuff.

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The people do.....

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That was just about the type of answer I was expecting. Isn't it ironic that they have no Real authority but fabricate fancy paper work with THEIR Official Stamping/Moniker of Legitimacy as if THAT somehow adds credence to their worthiness!?! I have received COUNTLESS phone calls from people (with horror stories) that have been taken advantage of regarding the kind and generous actions from these Authorities.

The original poster said he was treated rudely for his thoughts as it pertained to dealing with one of these respected authorities! How could this have possibly happened to one of the "people" since they were instrumental in establishing this level of authority? Shouldn't you be extra nice to those who ALLOW you to continue operating under such anemic and false pretenses? Maybe when the "people" see things for what they are, they will take back this unsubstantiated and benevolent authority.