Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2
Offset Rockers for Edelbrock Victors: Who has the best? #883061
12/18/10 03:25 PM
12/18/10 03:25 PM
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 577
Arkansas
A
Adrielp Offline OP
mopar
Adrielp  Offline OP
mopar
A

Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 577
Arkansas
Was looking at different brands to buy and wondering what brands were good. We are going to just buy the 8 necessary offset rockers. From what we saw, Crane, Hughes, and Harland Sharp had some rockers available for the Victor with Harland Sharp being the most expensive. What are you guys thoughts or suggestions?


Adriel Paradise
Substation Design Engineer III
Re: Offset Rockers for Edelbrock Victors: Who has the best? [Re: Adrielp] #883062
12/18/10 03:32 PM
12/18/10 03:32 PM
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 284
Louisiana
K
kzinge1 Offline
enthusiast
kzinge1  Offline
enthusiast
K

Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 284
Louisiana
I have the Hughes, I like them, still required a little grinding on the head for safe clearance. I think the T&D setup has the right offset from what I've read, and they are supposed to be better quality($$$$).

Re: Offset Rockers for Edelbrock Victors: Who has the best? [Re: Adrielp] #883063
12/18/10 03:32 PM
12/18/10 03:32 PM
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 6,293
Rock Springs
Bob_Coomer Offline
master
Bob_Coomer  Offline
master

Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 6,293
Rock Springs
Out of those rockers, I vote Harland Sharp. I dont know much about the Hughes stuff, Im betting they are made by a similar company as the Indy stuff (Dove) but not sure.
I would look into T&D Machine. They might be priced close to the HS stuff and they will take the abuse of high spring loads.
What cam do you plan to run? And do you think the future will call for a upgrade.
Its cheaper to but the better rockers the first time, than buying two sets..


[color:"red"]65 Hemi Belvedere coming soon [/color]
[color:"#00FF00"]557" Indy engine 1.07 60ft 144mph in the 8th 2100 lbs package [/color]
Re: Offset Rockers for Edelbrock Victors: Who has the best? [Re: Bob_Coomer] #883064
12/18/10 05:13 PM
12/18/10 05:13 PM
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 939
glendora, ca.
D
Deepockets Offline
super stock
Deepockets  Offline
super stock
D

Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 939
glendora, ca.
i went with the t@d's and they are nice. i will have to barly grind the rockers so that they wont interfear with the +.100 retainers.(only a few thousands) also the studs that came with my t&d's and with the heads only are 1/2" long where they thread into the heads. the heads are tapped to a full 3/4" and i'm going to have to buy some longer studs for that.

Re: Offset Rockers for Edelbrock Victors: Who has the best? [Re: Deepockets] #883065
12/18/10 05:30 PM
12/18/10 05:30 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 31,034
Oregon
A
AndyF Offline
I Win
AndyF  Offline
I Win
A

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 31,034
Oregon
The T&D stuff is really nice. They make some excellent parts.

Re: Offset Rockers for Edelbrock Victors: Who has the best? [Re: AndyF] #883066
12/18/10 05:54 PM
12/18/10 05:54 PM
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 8,165
Left Coast
B
BobR Offline
master
BobR  Offline
master
B

Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 8,165
Left Coast
Quote:

The T&D stuff is really nice. They make some excellent parts.




You want the best? T+D or Jesel. Harland Sharp is OK. The rest is junk IMO.

Re: Offset Rockers for Edelbrock Victors: Who has the best? [Re: BobR] #883067
12/18/10 08:23 PM
12/18/10 08:23 PM
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 577
Arkansas
A
Adrielp Offline OP
mopar
Adrielp  Offline OP
mopar
A

Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 577
Arkansas
Our cams are between .660 and .720. Its a 497 bracket engine that won't see more than 7500rpms. We want things to last and perform well. I don't know if Jesel is quite in our price range but we may hold up a bit and get the HS or T&D stuff.

Are the T&D rockers around the same costs as HS?
About $75 per rocker?


Adriel Paradise
Substation Design Engineer III
Re: Offset Rockers for Edelbrock Victors: Who has the best? [Re: Adrielp] #883068
12/18/10 08:48 PM
12/18/10 08:48 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 4,152
SO. CAL.
7
70blackfish Offline
master
70blackfish  Offline
master
7

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 4,152
SO. CAL.
I have T&D machine they are about 900.00 for the set. you have to use there rocker shafts.
Jesel is NICE, but you may have to machine your heads for there stands. and at 7500 rpm you want the best.

Re: Offset Rockers for Edelbrock Victors: Who has the best? [Re: 70blackfish] #883069
12/19/10 01:21 AM
12/19/10 01:21 AM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 3,616
Riverside, Ca
G
G_bob Offline
master
G_bob  Offline
master
G

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 3,616
Riverside, Ca
I've got 1.7 T&D's on my max wegde victors. Right at .700 net lift, rev limiter at 7100. Cross the stripe about 7050.
Doesn't hit the limiter with the 7100 pill, but did with the 7000.

Re: Offset Rockers for Edelbrock Victors: Who has the best? [Re: Adrielp] #883070
12/19/10 02:19 AM
12/19/10 02:19 AM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 15,439
Val-haul-ass... eventually
B
BradH Offline
Taking time off to work on my car
BradH  Offline
Taking time off to work on my car
B

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 15,439
Val-haul-ass... eventually
IMO for what you've described, just get the whole T&D setup.

For what I'm building (.650" max lift, 7000 RPM limit), the Hughes stuff should be just fine. FWIW, the Hughes rockers are made by Probe Industries.

Re: Offset Rockers for Edelbrock Victors: Who has the best? [Re: Deepockets] #883071
12/19/10 11:19 AM
12/19/10 11:19 AM
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 3,441
Mo.
S
supercomp Offline
master
supercomp  Offline
master
S

Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 3,441
Mo.
Quote:

i went with the [Email]t@d's[/Email] and they are nice. i will have to barly grind the rockers so that they wont interfear with the +.100 retainers.(only a few thousands) also the studs that came with my t&d's and with the heads only are 1/2" long where they thread into the heads. the heads are tapped to a full 3/4" and i'm going to have to buy some longer studs for that.




What installed height?

Re: Offset Rockers for Edelbrock Victors: Who has the best? [Re: supercomp] #883072
12/19/10 11:40 AM
12/19/10 11:40 AM
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 939
glendora, ca.
D
Deepockets Offline
super stock
Deepockets  Offline
super stock
D

Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 939
glendora, ca.
the installed heigth was 1.950 with a .045 spring seat. 1.570 dia. spring and manley retainers.

Re: Offset Rockers for Edelbrock Victors: Who has the best? [Re: Deepockets] #883073
12/19/10 12:30 PM
12/19/10 12:30 PM
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 6,293
Rock Springs
Bob_Coomer Offline
master
Bob_Coomer  Offline
master

Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 6,293
Rock Springs
Quote:

the installed heigth was 1.950 with a .045 spring seat. 1.570 dia. spring and manley retainers.



Nice installed height, was this hard to obtain? I read several threads and that was a "Con" to those heads..
You defiantly need Harlands Sharp at the least... I would look real hard at the T&D stuff if i where you


[color:"red"]65 Hemi Belvedere coming soon [/color]
[color:"#00FF00"]557" Indy engine 1.07 60ft 144mph in the 8th 2100 lbs package [/color]
Re: Offset Rockers for Edelbrock Victors: Who has the best? [Re: Bob_Coomer] #883074
12/19/10 12:52 PM
12/19/10 12:52 PM
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 939
glendora, ca.
D
Deepockets Offline
super stock
Deepockets  Offline
super stock
D

Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 939
glendora, ca.
i had to trim some off the heads. really on the exhaust pockets. the most i had to remove was .023 thou. the intakes were good to go.

6366210-mydart400.jpg (69 downloads)
Re: Offset Rockers for Edelbrock Victors: Who has the best? [Re: Bob_Coomer] #883075
12/19/10 01:20 PM
12/19/10 01:20 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 15,439
Val-haul-ass... eventually
B
BradH Offline
Taking time off to work on my car
BradH  Offline
Taking time off to work on my car
B

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 15,439
Val-haul-ass... eventually
I think anyone considering the Harland Sharps for Victors should mock up some HS rockers on those heads first before dropping the $$$ on them. It wouldn't surprise me if their longer distance between the shaft c/l and roller tip c/l puts the sweep pattern too far towards the exhaust side of the valve tip.

HS rockers are also significantly heavier than most other brands from what I've seen weighing them, and a good chunk of that weight is hanging over the valve end of the rocker, too. IMO, they could use a serious re-design to streamline their Mopar rockers' bodies.

As always, just my ... Plenty of people on here absolutely love HS rockers and seem to get a case of heartburn when I express these particular opinions on their products.

Re: Offset Rockers for Edelbrock Victors: Who has the best? [Re: Adrielp] #883076
12/19/10 01:21 PM
12/19/10 01:21 PM
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 187
good ole USA
M
moparlifer Offline
member
moparlifer  Offline
member
M

Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 187
good ole USA
Go only with the Harland Sharps .650" offset or the T&D's. Hughes does not have near enough offset requiring a lot of grinding on the pushrod tunnel on the side of the intake port and the bottom of the heads. Saves a lot of agravation.

Re: Offset Rockers for Edelbrock Victors: Who has the best? [Re: moparlifer] #883077
12/19/10 02:01 PM
12/19/10 02:01 PM
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 5,080
organ
M
maximum entropy Offline
master
maximum entropy  Offline
master
M

Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 5,080
organ
not intending to hijack, but will more than .650 offset work?


for what is the good life if not doing things thoughtfully?
Re: Offset Rockers for Edelbrock Victors: Who has the best? [Re: maximum entropy] #883078
12/20/10 06:32 PM
12/20/10 06:32 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 4,152
SO. CAL.
7
70blackfish Offline
master
70blackfish  Offline
master
7

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 4,152
SO. CAL.
when I was in the market for rockers the HS were more than T&D
machine...GO with the T&D.
call and talk to T&d and buy them from dougherbert.com

Re: Offset Rockers for Edelbrock Victors: Who has the b [Re: moparlifer] #883079
12/20/10 07:28 PM
12/20/10 07:28 PM
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 284
Louisiana
K
kzinge1 Offline
enthusiast
kzinge1  Offline
enthusiast
K

Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 284
Louisiana
Quote:

Go only with the Harland Sharps .650" offset or the T&D's. Hughes does not have near enough offset requiring a lot of grinding on the pushrod tunnel on the side of the intake port and the bottom of the heads. Saves a lot of agravation.




Had this problem with my Hughes rockers, I have 5/16" pushrods too. They are a nice setup, just require some more work.

Re: Offset Rockers for Edelbrock Victors: Who has the b [Re: kzinge1] #883080
12/20/10 08:58 PM
12/20/10 08:58 PM
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 449
Wisconsin
sjs64polara Offline
mopar
sjs64polara  Offline
mopar

Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 449
Wisconsin
I have 1.6 T&Ds with Victors Very happy with both of them to all

Page 1 of 2 1 2






Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.1