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'97 Ram 1500 Overdrive problem?????
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12/13/10 06:51 PM
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1997 Ram 1500, 5.9 auto 4x4.
So.......I am riding down the turnpike today and I notice that at 65mph, the rpm's are about 2-300 above where they usually are. I am saying to myself, "You should probably replace the TPS soon".
A while later the trans shifts out of OD and I see that the "OD Off" light is on. I make a u turn at the next exit and start heading home real easy.
Then the "Trans Temp" light comes on and I pull off and call a wrecker.
With my wallet $288 lighter, we drop it at my mechanic. Now...he hasn't had a chance to look at it yet but I was just wondering if this has happened to anyone else and any ideas what I might be looking at.
Scott
1969 Super Bee, 383/4 speed
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Re: '97 Ram 1500 Overdrive problem?????
[Re: StukaJU87]
#879125
12/13/10 07:43 PM
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My Dakota did the same thing when the clip that holds the boost valve in broke. Pull the pan, and if you see a couple little metal pieces about 1" long and 3/8" wide you need to drop the valve body and replace the clip.
The only symptom mine had was the converter was not locking up. (Before it started dropping out of OD pulling my trailer-that is "limp" mode)
The techs at the local dealership said my trans needed rebuilt. I replaced the clip 30,000 miles ago and everything is still fine.
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Re: '97 Ram 1500 Overdrive problem?????
[Re: olemopar]
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12/14/10 08:18 PM
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Hmmm....I went by the mechanic on the way home. He told me that he drove my truck several times today and it was fine. He said he ran the hell out of it to try to get it to duplicate what I had told him and nothing happened out of the ordinary. He also said he scanned for codes and there were none stored. Are either of your scenerios an intermittant problem? You think maybe the check ball in the trans cooler line might have gotten stuck? The OD Off light came on first and the truck downshifted itself. A couple minutes later the Trans Temp light came on.  That's when I shut it down and called a wrecker. At any rate, I told him to use the truck all day tomorrow for chasing parts or whatever to see if it acts up. I am SO DONE with this truck. Look for it on ebay soon. 
Scott
1969 Super Bee, 383/4 speed
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Re: '97 Ram 1500 Overdrive problem?????
[Re: Grizzly]
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12/16/10 08:40 PM
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The only time mine shifted out of OD and turned the light on was when I was pulling my Valiant across Iowa into the wind. It was throwing a code and turning on the CEL though. Good luck with it. You may find it is not that serious. I've had tons of people tell me how junky these trans' are, but mine has been pretty dang bullet proof for what it's been through. 
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Re: '97 Ram 1500 Overdrive problem?????
[Re: slantzilla]
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12/16/10 09:41 PM
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Ok, so I went there today to see how the truck was coming along. He already had the check valve drilled out, cleaned and reinstalled.
He had the pan dropped and no busted pieces were in there. Just normal wear stuff on the magnet.
I got the truck back tonight and it still seems like it is running about 250rpm's faster at 65(about 2000). The reason I reference 65 is because that is where I always set my cruise when heading to work so I am used to how it ran before this incident.
I got home and replaced the TPS and basically it still runs the same.
Before the incident, I could lift my foot lightly off the gas at 65 and rpm's would drop to a hair above the 1750 rpm mark and pretty much hold there.
I am stumped.
Scott
1969 Super Bee, 383/4 speed
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Re: '97 Ram 1500 Overdrive problem?????
[Re: StukaJU87]
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12/17/10 01:59 AM
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Go for a drive and lightly but slowly push down on the brake pedal and let go. Watch the tach for any change in rpm. (The torque convertor should flash a couple of hundred rpm.)
Send me a PM or report back on here what it does.
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Re: '97 Ram 1500 Overdrive problem?????
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12/17/10 06:40 PM
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I am DONE. I went for a ride after cleaning up the ground wires and resetting the pcm. Seemed like it was ok. Went for a 10 mile ride on Rt80 got off and tried to make a u turn and get back on and truck wouldn't move in D. Dropped it down to 1 and it moved. Had to shift it manually to make it move. Took it to a independent trans shop. Owner took me for a ride in it. According to him the "sprag" is shot and the trans needs to be rebuilt. He told me I could continue to drive it by manually shifting the gears but it needs to be rebuilt. I brought it home, cleaned it out and listed it on ebay. If any of you trans guys wants a 74,000 mile '97 Ram 4x4 to try your hand at....pm me and I'll send you the link to the auction. I AM DONE!!!!!!!! 
Scott
1969 Super Bee, 383/4 speed
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Re: '97 Ram 1500 Overdrive problem?????
[Re: StukaJU87]
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12/17/10 09:03 PM
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Took it to a independent trans shop. Owner took me for a ride in it. According to him the "sprag" is shot and the trans needs to be rebuilt.
Oh? If the sprag was shot you would have much larger problems.
Sounds like something is wonky with the valvebody and/or governor.
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Re: '97 Ram 1500 Overdrive problem?????
[Re: gdonovan]
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12/17/10 10:02 PM
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Well, either way I am done with it. I can't have an unreliable vehicle to go back and forth to work with. I am going to buy something much newer.
Scott
1969 Super Bee, 383/4 speed
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Re: '97 Ram 1500 Overdrive problem?????
[Re: StukaJU87]
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12/17/10 10:37 PM
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I beg to differ my 76 727 short shaft is the same thing,manual shift it,it works and goes...pull up to a stop and forget to down shift it..no pulling off in drive...just crunching/grinding sounds till manual shifted to low drive it like I stole it,manual shifting with on/off the gas and no coasting or auto shifting.you could not tell it was toast,never sliped or missed a gear,it still worked by manual till I pulled it..deff the sprag..I had rollers in the pan mine came about from about 15-4800 rpm N drops doing hole shots with it i still have it in the shed,best 50$ tranz I have ever bought..lasted for 10 yrs till that night  its too bad,but I think its a good move with that truck repair,IMHO a used JY tranz may be fine and may not and a rebuild is $$$ to have it done right good luck on ebay/CL 
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Re: '97 Ram 1500 Overdrive problem?????
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12/17/10 10:54 PM
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I just bought my 99, luckily its a 2wd & the trans was just rebuilt before i bought it, BUT i'm playing it by ear with this truck, dodge literally F*cked up & were sleeping on this one when it comes to these transmissions, I will NEVER think of pulling anything with it, can't trust it, even though its rebuilt it still acts funky & i don't like it, its a cryin shame because the truck is very solid in the rest of the drivetrain, but the trans is a friggin "joke"  , I'll keep it for a good 6-8 months & unload it, so much for having a "solid" dodge truck, the guys who developed this trans needs to be shot  .
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Re: '97 Ram 1500 Overdrive problem?????
[Re: joedust451]
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12/17/10 11:55 PM
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I'll keep it for a good 6-8 months & unload it, so much for having a "solid" dodge truck, the guys who developed this trans needs to be shot .
Mines got 151k on the clock, just keeps ticking along..
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Re: '97 Ram 1500 Overdrive problem?????
[Re: gdonovan]
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12/18/10 07:13 PM
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I'll keep it for a good 6-8 months & unload it, so much for having a "solid" dodge truck, the guys who developed this trans needs to be shot .
Mines got 151k on the clock, just keeps ticking along..
Mine has 170,000. People been telling me for 130,000 miles now that I can't pull my trailer/race car in OD or it will burn the trans up. I'm still waiting. 
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Re: '97 Ram 1500 Overdrive problem?????
[Re: slantzilla]
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12/18/10 08:36 PM
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I'll keep it for a good 6-8 months & unload it, so much for having a "solid" dodge truck, the guys who developed this trans needs to be shot .
Mines got 151k on the clock, just keeps ticking along..
Mine has 170,000. People been telling me for 130,000 miles now that I can't pull my trailer/race car in OD or it will burn the trans up. I'm still waiting.
My work truck is a 96 2500 Long Bed ext.cab and it just flipped 266K although I finally had to replace the original water pump and put a new Alternator on it last month......GREAT TRUCK!!!!
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Re: '97 Ram 1500 Overdrive problem?????
[Re: slantzilla]
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12/18/10 08:40 PM
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Mine has 170,000. People been telling me for 130,000 miles now that I can't pull my trailer/race car in OD or it will burn the trans up. I'm still waiting.
Mines an anvil, I love it! Truck has been faultless aside from a caliper going bad from sitting and the a/c evaporator crapping out last year. When I get some spare time I'll swap it out, not a priority at the moment..
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