Re: Should I Buy a Case Spreader?
[Re: Jeremiah]
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12/12/10 11:27 PM
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I have never used 1 and have yet to have a problem
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Re: Should I Buy a Case Spreader?
[Re: dusturbd340W5]
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12/12/10 11:50 PM
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I use mine all the time. Without enough bearing preload, the bearing cup will wear the case, ultimately destroying it. That results from the pinion trying to force the ringgear away from the pinion. There are some diff guys around who can rebore the case to save it. Check the following link - see section on axle bore face tool... to correct above problem. You won't need the bore tool if you use enough preload on the carrier. http://quad4x4.com/4x4%20Tools.htm
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Re: Should I Buy a Case Spreader?
[Re: Jeremiah]
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12/12/10 11:59 PM
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We never used them at any dealer I worked at and never had any problems.
Nautilus Racing- We use Superformance gaskets and Turbo Action converters/products.
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Re: Should I Buy a Case Spreader?
[Re: MRMOPAR]
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12/13/10 12:03 AM
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Jeremiah
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I use mine all the time. Without enough bearing preload, the bearing cup will wear the case, ultimately destroying it. That results from the pinion trying to force the ringgear away from the pinion. There are some diff guys around who can rebore the case to save it.
Check the following link - see section on axle bore face tool... to correct above problem. You won't need the bore tool if you use enough preload on the carrier.
http://quad4x4.com/4x4%20Tools.htm
This is the reason I am asking. Actually, the case spreader I am looking at is on that page. Great minds think alike. 100% of my concern is setting up a rear diff and not getting enough preload. I know that most of the units I have done did not need more than a mallet to get the shims in but the one in the shop now is a real beotch and not going well.
Thanks to everyone for the advice so far.
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Re: Should I Buy a Case Spreader?
[Re: Jeremiah]
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12/13/10 01:33 AM
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I've set up one Dana 44 and 10 to 15 or so Dana 60, never used a case spreader. I talk to one of the local Dodge dealer heavy line mechanic(before I did my first one) and he said you don't need them I pry the carrier out with two long pointed pry bars, remove the original carrier bearings(if that carrier is going back into the same housing)and install a set of honed carrier bearings I used for setting them up, get the back lash correct and reinstall the original bearings(if there good , if I am going to use new bearings I measure the inner race width and add or subtract the shims as needed to get the same preload as when removed)If I'm installing a new spool or carrier, like changing ratio that needs a different carrier, I use the set up bearings to get the backlash AND PRELOAD SET, measure the width diiffernces on the inner races and compensate on the shims on the new bearings. The Mopar service manuals I have(all 6 of them) say to use the spreader and use .012 to .018 (I think ) preload form zero on the carrier bearing preload, that has worked very well for me I have seen one Dana 60 3/4 ton truck center section where the axles tubes run against the carrier bearing destroyed by something or someone not getting the set up correct I had to take that housing to Summer Bros. to have it fixed, they machined it flat and gave us large, harden washer to use a shim bewtween the axle and the carrier bearings It must have worked okay , the customer never compalined or brought it back, it was in a 4 speed race car that ran in the high nines back in the mid 1970s Buy the case spreader and DO NOT over spread the housings I would buy the other tool also
Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)
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Re: Should I Buy a Case Spreader?
[Re: DoctorDiff]
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12/13/10 09:18 AM
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To each his own I guess. Never regreted having one and always use it. Needing a mallet to "hammer" it together is something I'd like to hear my assembler tell me. Yep, dealerships and others cheat to save a buck in labor and reduce effort. Some also reduce the diameter of the bearing case journal so they dont have to use a puller to adjust shims. Either correct?.... No. Using pinion to pry out diff does work but chips and stresses those couple of teeth but is effective in a jam. The right tools will save you time and parts. How many races you want to score?
Last edited by theclutcher; 12/13/10 09:38 AM.
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