Re: Need info on H-code 340 A-bodies
[Re: ScottSmith_Harms]
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12/11/10 01:29 PM
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Before you pay to have them re-drilled you should consider saving them or selling them, they bring decent money used from the restoration crowd, but not if they've been modified. The later style BBP's were used for many years and are quite cheap/common.
Aaaaahhh, dont worry bout them guys, they're weird to start with. Those have a lighter rotor that makes them not a bad choice for racing as far as stock parts go. Little on the expensive side to rebuild tho.
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Re: Need info on H-code 340 A-bodies
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Aaaaahhh, dont worry bout them guys, they're weird to start with.
Really? I think "Weird" better applies to the guy building a race car from a rare and valuable original 340 car which would detract from it's originallity value, rather than choosing a lower end (cheaper and lighter) /6 car to build which wouldn't hurt it's value a bit (not too mention it's a slightly lighter car, better for racing). It's not just about value either, I hate to see a performance classic sacrificed to the racing gods, but that's a personal thing. But hey, I guess it doesn't matter, not my car.
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Re: Need info on H-code 340 A-bodies
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I think the H code 340 cars have the round gauges also as opposed to the square box speedometer style right?
Correct, the round style in that 1970 Dart are called "Rallye" gauges, and only came in 340 cars. The other "square" style are standard gauges that all the other models had.
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Re: Need info on H-code 340 A-bodies
[Re: ScottSmith_Harms]
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Aaaaahhh, dont worry bout them guys, they're weird to start with.
Really? I think "Weird" better applies to the guy building a race car from a rare and valuable original 340 car which would detract from it's originallity value, rather than choosing a lower end (cheaper and lighter) /6 car to build which wouldn't hurt it's value a bit (not too mention it's a slightly lighter car, better for racing). It's not just about value either, I hate to see a performance classic sacrificed to the racing gods, but that's a personal thing. But hey, I guess it doesn't matter, not my car.
What about a guy that cuts up and builds a race car from an original 440 A body?
Scott, not everyone has their head rammed up their ... wallet ...
Maybe the :crybaby: purists should start ponying up to buyall these rare and valuable cars, as they call them , so they can be saved the way they think is proper.
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Re: Need info on H-code 340 A-bodies
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Aaaaahhh, dont worry bout them guys, they're weird to start with.
Really? I think "Weird" better applies to the guy building a race car from a rare and valuable original 340 car which would detract from it's originallity value, rather than choosing a lower end (cheaper and lighter) /6 car to build which wouldn't hurt it's value a bit (not too mention it's a slightly lighter car, better for racing). It's not just about value either, I hate to see a performance classic sacrificed to the racing gods, but that's a personal thing. But hey, I guess it doesn't matter, not my car.
Some of us did it when these were $500 beaters this use to be a 340 swinger now its a money pit
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Re: Need info on H-code 340 A-bodies
[Re: dbran451]
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12/11/10 02:06 PM
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Some of us did it when these were $500 beaters this use to be a 340 swinger now its a money pit
Understood, been there done that. Just don't see much sense in doing it these days.
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Re: Need info on H-code 340 A-bodies
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What about a guy that cuts up and builds a race car from an original 440 A body?
Scott, not everyone has their head rammed up their ... wallet ...
Maybe the :crybaby: purists should start ponying up to buyall these rare and valuable cars, as they call them , so they can be saved the way they think is proper.
Pretty selective reading you are doing there, value was one point I made but I guess you missed my other (very valid and non subjective) reasons for not cutting up an original? Actually I hear allot more "racers" lashing out at "purists" with the mere suggestion of not cutting up an original car than the opposite. Who's REALLY doing the crying here? Keep in mind that while I center on restoring cars these days I've also owned a fair number of race cars in the past, and although most on this forum consider me as such, I don't consider myself a "purist", I like them all.
As far as cutting up the original 440 A-body? It depends on the example. Generally speaking not something I'd do or suggest (assuming it's a solid complete car to begin with), now If it were a rusty turd missing all but an original VIN tag it probably wouldn't make much difference, it's all but junk allready.
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Re: Need info on H-code 340 A-bodies
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I think the H code 340 cars have the round gauges also as opposed to the square box speedometer style right?
Not in 72.
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Re: Need info on H-code 340 A-bodies
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12/11/10 05:29 PM
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The one I'm looking at has the rallye dash. The car is NICE, already been restored. I want to do some small things to it but it will not be a race car, so saving the stock pieces is fine with me even though I've never cared about that stuff. I'd like to find someone that makes a polished torque thrust-2 wheel in a 4" bolt pattern, or I may have to get some different front brakes.
What was the HP rating for a 70 H-code 340 auto Dart?
This would actually make a great car for the FAST class but it wouldn't be very quick.
1970 Challenger, all aluminum 528 Hemi, HDK suspension, Tremec 5 speed manual
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Re: Need info on H-code 340 A-bodies
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The one I'm looking at has the rallye dash. The car is NICE, already been restored. I want to do some small things to it but it will not be a race car, so saving the stock pieces is fine with me even though I've never cared about that stuff. I'd like to find someone that makes a polished torque thrust-2 wheel in a 4" bolt pattern, or I may have to get some different front brakes.
What was the HP rating for a 70 H-code 340 auto Dart?
This would actually make a great car for the FAST class but it wouldn't be very quick.
Buy it and do some mods that can be changed back to stock, They are fun to drive, stick in a 400+hp motor, hi stall, some drag radial and have a blast.
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Re: Need info on H-code 340 A-bodies
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12/11/10 06:41 PM
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I dont know about the US but A bodies fetch very little money in England compared to B or E cars. A restored 340 GTS is worth between a 1/3 to 1/2 the value of a Charger R/T or similar Challenger. A shame really because my car is an original GTS.
69 Dart GTS 440 mopar .590 cam, Edelbrock heads, 3200# best et 6.45, 106.78, 10.14, 132.88 mph, 1.47 60ft best 60ft 1.36
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Re: Need info on H-code 340 A-bodies
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12/11/10 06:48 PM
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I'd like to find someone that makes a polished torque thrust-2 wheel in a 4" bolt pattern, or I may have to get some different front brakes.
Good question and Ive wondered about it. Also wonder if wheel companies would make them special without charging a whole bunch. Most cases would be a simple change in numbers on the cnc program.
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