Re: NHRA Super Category Survey
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So Super Street would become nothing but a bracket catagory between 10 flat and 10.99. It will increase the car count...good for nhra and track..
Also to go to a full tree instead of five tenth pro light...a racer could footbrake..no delay box or transbrake...again cheaper for the racers..
it looks like nhra trying to bring bracket racing to divisional races...
you already have guys running big mph...so they could run dial 10 flat..
also would they get rid of the 2800 lbs minimun weight?
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Re: NHRA Super Category Survey
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I received a "poll" for Super/Gas - basically wanting me to vote for an index. 9.90, 9.50, or 8.90. No other options or opinion sections, just check one of the 3 boxes. Quote:
Dear Racer, You are receiving this e-mail resultant to discussions between NHRA and the Sportsman Racers Advisory Council for the Super Categories. The discussion centered about the possibility of changing the indexes of Super Comp and Super Gas. The SRAC representatives feel there is a need to lower the indexes by up to a full second. Both categories have had the same index since their inception into NHRA competition and the SRAC feel the need to change is based upon safety and the need to keep pace with the growing phenomenon of having larger horsepower engines.
We are asking for your input to further this discussion. Please follow the link below to cast your vote to either leave indexes as they are or change to one of the options listed. If you are licensed for both categories, you will receive separate emails for each, as we would like to keep the class votes separate.
This poll is not intended to be a final determination for any possible change. It is simply a way for us to gather information to see if a change is even on the radar. Poll results will be published at nhra.com.
Thank you for your support of NHRA Drag Racing and Happy Holidays,
Mike Rice NHRA Pacific Division Director SRAC Super Category Chairperson
I voted to keep the 9.90. I see no reason to change. If a S/G racer wants to run 8.90, he/she can go to Super/Comp.
Since its index racing, I see no real difference between setting the car up to run 9.50 as opposed to 9.90.
My guess is they (NHRA) is trying to reduce the amount of time cars spend "on the stop" to help keep public interest up. If that is the case, maybe a MPH cap could be implemented.
Because of the number of dragsters set up to run super quick classes, maybe they need to add a faster index class for those cars, like a 7.90 class. Although I hate to see them keep adding more classes as it can reduce car counts in other classes. Soon it would be like a cars show, so many classes nearly everyone gets a trophy.
Scott
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Re: NHRA Super Category Survey
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I don't think anyone (anyone being current .90 racers) would be in favor of a full tree and dial ins. Heads up, pro tree is what it's all about.
I don't think a majority would be in favor of making the indexes quicker. You would be looking at an 8.90 Super Gas car being able to run low 8s or high 7s to be competitive. Not everyone can afford 165 MPH horsepower, especially now. A bunch of good racers, who don't have deep pockets, would park 'em or go do something else..
If the results don't match the theory, change the theory.
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Re: NHRA Super Category Survey
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Ten years ago I proposed to the idiots controlling NHRA a way solve this so caled problem.
You announce that the index's are going to be lowered .10 a year for five years. It gives everybody a plan to what they need to do with their car. It will be subject to review after three years to see how it is impacting the recers. Ninety-nine percent of the racers already have .10 in their cmbination and won't have to spend a dime to comply.
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Re: NHRA Super Category Survey
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I think all the indexes should be 1sec lower.
It will kill it for the slower cars....not everyone can afford a 15-20k bullet and all that goes with having a 900+hp engine.....if sg wants to go faster then let them race sc and if sc wants to go faster let them step up to td....lowering the index's will have zero effect on filling the stands with spectators....I say leave it alone, it ain't broken
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Re: NHRA Super Category Survey
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I know it will never happen, but I'd like to see "speed limits" on S/C S/G and S/ST. 135 in S/ST, 150 in S/C and 165 in S/C. It's ridiculous that we have 1,200 hp motors in an 8.90 dragster and 1,000 hp motors in "tube frame" S/ST cars.
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Re: NHRA Super Category Survey
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I've never run in the super classes, but from working at a track that ran a super class series, I can assure you that nothing chases fans away from the stands quicker than throttle stopped cars. Mind you, the racers get a kick out of it, but the average fan heads for the concessions when the .90s hit the track. Get rid of the TStops, and change the indexes to the .50s. The NHRA (and IHRA) could do much better in promoting the .90 class racers, as well as the entire sportsman side of the ledger, but we know how well that's been recieved over the years.
Ron H. "Just when you think you have all of the answers...I change the questions!" "Rowdy" Roddy Piper
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Re: NHRA Super Category Survey
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I know it will never happen, but I'd like to see "speed limits" on S/C S/G and S/ST. 135 in S/ST, 150 in S/C and 165 in S/C. It's ridiculous that we have 1,200 hp motors in an 8.90 dragster and 1,000 hp motors in "tube frame" S/ST cars.
Yep....slow them down, that will surely fill the stands
Divisional races rarely draw spectators...at National races...spectators only come to watch the pro's....I'm thinking most of the negative comments come from non-super class racers.....duh
Just my humble opinion
Rickster
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Re: NHRA Super Category Survey
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I know it will never happen, but I'd like to see "speed limits" on S/C S/G and S/ST. 135 in S/ST, 150 in S/C and 165 in S/C. It's ridiculous that we have 1,200 hp motors in an 8.90 dragster and 1,000 hp motors in "tube frame" S/ST cars.
Yep....slow them down, that will surely fill the stands
Divisional races rarely draw spectators...at National races...spectators only come to watch the pro's....I'm thinking most of the negative comments come from non-super class racers.....duh
Just my humble opinion
Rickster
Because the stands are packed full now ?
I go to Div races and Nat event races with my friends all the time , no one cares about the .90 classes except the people with the car or the driver
If you car isn't in, you don't watch or you leave
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Re: NHRA Super Category Survey
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I just opened my email for s/g and voted to leave alone,if I want to run 8.9 I would get a s/c number. I agree if NHRA changes it, I see more people looking else where. Also I see them if this goes through then hey why not make S/ST need a chassis cert and full liscense, costing racers more and more to compete. jmho John
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Re: NHRA Super Category Survey
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The 2 most boring classes at any NHRA event to watch as a spectator. We usually get up and go to look at other cars or side shows when they run these Throttle stop wonders. Do a big burnout and blast off the line for all of 2 feet before they slow to a crawl and slowly accelerate again to reach the end of the track and 130 MPH... B O R I N G! Kind of like watching two taxi cabs leave the airport.
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Re: NHRA Super Category Survey
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I think all the indexes should be 1sec lower.
I don't see a point in doing that. There is already a class 1-sec faster. If you want to run 1 sec faster, move from S/ST to S/G or S/G to S/C. Now if you already run S/C and you want to go faster, then yes, there may be call for a new 7.90 class. However, there is a Jegs SuperQuick series which allows dragsters and door cars, loosely based on a 7.50 index. Yes its a bracket race, but most of the dragsters are running 7.50 as that is the maximum allowed.
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Re: NHRA Super Category Survey
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I know it will never happen, but I'd like to see "speed limits" on S/C S/G and S/ST. 135 in S/ST, 150 in S/C and 165 in S/C. It's ridiculous that we have 1,200 hp motors in an 8.90 dragster and 1,000 hp motors in "tube frame" S/ST cars.
Yep....slow them down, that will surely fill the stands
Divisional races rarely draw spectators...at National races...spectators only come to watch the pro's....I'm thinking most of the negative comments come from non-super class racers.....duh
Just my humble opinion
Rickster
Because the stands are packed full now ?
I go to Div races and Nat event races with my friends all the time , no one cares about the .90 classes except the people with the car or the driver
If you car isn't in, you don't watch or you leave
My point exactly....they aren't filled now and never will be at Divisionals, sure if the economy was better you would see more....but I really can't remember ever seeing many spectators at Division races.....Nats are down too due to the economy....not Super Class cars
Rickster
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Re: NHRA Super Category Survey
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The 2 most boring classes at any NHRA event to watch as a spectator. We usually get up and go to look at other cars or side shows when they run these Throttle stop wonders. Do a big burnout and blast off the line for all of 2 feet before they slow to a crawl and slowly accelerate again to reach the end of the track and 130 MPH... B O R I N G! Kind of like watching two taxi cabs leave the airport.
Well I crossed it @ 168mph....not boring from the seat and slowly accelerate....hardly, whens the last time you went 168mph in less than 1/4 mile or 1/4 mile for that matter
Rickster
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