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Re: TORQUE CONVERTER SUGGESTIONS
[Re: 572_dup2]
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12/05/10 05:44 PM
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Re: TORQUE CONVERTER SUGGESTIONS
[Re: Labratt]
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12/05/10 05:48 PM
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Randy you could have your loosened up some but for what you do with the car I think you would be wasting your money with the new converter... JMO 
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Re: TORQUE CONVERTER SUGGESTIONS
[Re: cgall]
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12/05/10 07:23 PM
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a 9" J will be looser than what your running and work good on the street (thats what i run in the dart). my buddy runs a ultimate 8" on the street with no issues. 8" seems a little overkill on a 10/11 sec street/strip car though.
68 Dart GTS "HEMI" 10.30 @ 131 pump gas street car 3780#
69 Roadrunner 511 six pack 10.92 drive to track street car
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Re: TORQUE CONVERTER SUGGESTIONS
[Re: 69CHARGERMD]
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12/06/10 10:29 AM
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Can Jim (440jim) or Mr P Body,,post the equation for 60' and ET....it is pretty close,,,cant remember the formula.. 
That might give an indication of "how far off" the 60' is, if at all for your ET... 
This using the Wallace calculator ... the difference
in the 60' is 1.57 in the 1/4... in other words for
every .1 in 60 you X that by 1.57 for the 1/4
60 Foot 1.56
330 Foot 4.49
660 Foot 7.06
660 MPH 96.27
1000 Foot 9.29
1/4 Mile ET 11.19
1/4 Mile MPH 118.41
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Re: TORQUE CONVERTER SUGGESTIONS
[Re: Labratt]
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12/06/10 01:21 PM
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Brad...I'm open for ALL your suggestions on knocking a tenth off my 60'! SERIOUSLY! Springs..shocks...slicks???? 
Start w/ jets, squirters, pump cams, a timing light and a log book to record what changes the different tuning settings, launch RPM, shift RPM, tire pressure, etc., make.
At some point you have to settle on a baseline of parts and start flogging the final tune to get the best from it. Sometimes I've stumbled upon some significant gains from major parts swaps, but a lot of the improvements have come from a good bit of track time simply tuning it to work better.
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Re: TORQUE CONVERTER SUGGESTIONS
[Re: deaks]
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12/06/10 02:38 PM
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Thanks Randy,Deaks! Deaks,I was looking to have Jeff@Modern CNC port the heads,but couldn't scrape up the money! Hopefully,down the road,I can do it! Randy,I sent Lenny@ Ultimate a e-mail,to see how much additional stall he can add to the 9.5"! Also..someone on this board is offering me a 8" Coan at a VERY reasonable price! I will be doing a lot of "listening" to OPINIONS,and EXPERIENCES,before doing anything hastilly! 
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Re: TORQUE CONVERTER SUGGESTIONS
[Re: Dartin]
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12/06/10 03:00 PM
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I'm running a "J" in the Dart. Seems fine on the street for the limited driving I do. The biggest improvement in my 60' came from tires. I think there is more to be found in tuning. Brad has some pretty sound advise.
I've been asking around trying to find a guy in our area that does converters. everyone says they have heard of someone but can't remember the name. I will let you know what I find...
Randy
I know the guy... his name is Mike, forget his last
name... he has a shop at 26 and mound(use to be on
campground road)... I've been TRYING to deal with
him but all I'm getting is a run around... I'll give
him 1 more try today and if that doesnt happen I'll
go elsewhere
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Re: TORQUE CONVERTER SUGGESTIONS
[Re: Labratt]
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12/06/10 05:17 PM
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I believe you'll be wasting your money on an 8" converter. Did you ever see where your car stalls now? Just because you put a 4500 stall in the car does not mean your hitting 4500. You need torque to stall the converter.  Brian
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Re: TORQUE CONVERTER SUGGESTIONS
[Re: Labratt]
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12/06/10 05:27 PM
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Thanks,Frannie! I'd like one of those down the road,as well! Mike..I'm going to call Lenny shortly. I sent him an e-mail this morning,and got a response before Noon! I've heard nothing but good things about the quality of his work...and customer service!  Maybe you should contact him,also! 
Funny... I called him this morning myself... talked
to him about lock up converters
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Re: TORQUE CONVERTER SUGGESTIONS
[Re: MR_P_BODY]
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12/06/10 05:52 PM
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All this talk about converters, ported heads, roller cams etc.... & nobody's suggested optimizing the chassis. What does the car do now when it launches? Does it look like the car is transferring weight properly? Is it rising properly? Give the old Mopar Chassis manual a read. It does a great job of explaining how a "stock" leaf spring car should launch. Are you using good shocks?? Anything named Chassis Engineering 3 way or equivelent is JUNK!! Is your front end "bound up"? Here's a little test for you.... Jack up the car Put on jack stands Remove the torsion bar from the lower control arm Using your hands, try to raise the tire as far into the fender as possible & let it go. See how fast it drops, I'll be it sticks up in the fender. Most do...... The front end should be loose enuff to allow the suspension to travel quickly, yet tight enuff to maintain good stability. I can tell you how I do this later if you'd like. My opinion is Until you get the chssis working good, all other changes are "band-aids". Just my
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Re: TORQUE CONVERTER SUGGESTIONS
[Re: STEFF]
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12/07/10 11:40 AM
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There isn't one person in this hobby that doesn't work on a "budget". That word gets thrown around way too much on this web site.
Yeah... we are ALL trying to get the best bang for the buck...
How ya been Steff
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Re: TORQUE CONVERTER SUGGESTIONS
[Re: MR_P_BODY]
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12/07/10 02:08 PM
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The Wallace calculator seems right on for the 60' I didnt notice much change when i had my convertor sent out last year, ,,I think it was pretty close anyways,,,but i had the trans out,,,and sent it out to get "re-done" I did notice some improvement with adjusting the carb shooters,  ,,car became much more responsive off the line,,,previously the carb was a bit "soggy",,adjusting the squirters helped.... I also noticed playing with the launch RPM helped Do you run Caltracs ? ( I know Fran runs them on the "street" ) Any options to take some weight out of that battleship ?  Any options to check the front end travel,,front end limiters,, STEFF makes a great comment on the upper control arms,,and binding,  ,,I need to check mine,,i am sure there is some binding going on,,,,eventually I am going to put on some Bondobob front A arms... see ya in the spring,,,might be a chance for me to drag my car up from Kentucky,,,to race with ya'll at Milan.
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But,you're right, the word does get used too frequently around here! 
In my humbling situation..I'm just THANKFUL to be able to keep my car..let alone,trying to improve it! 