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Any chance a 22" radiator will cool a 470 ? #871396 12/04/10 07:14 PM 12/04/10 07:14 PM
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,675 Mt. Eden Ky. Hemi Allstate OP master
Hemi Allstate OP master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,675 Mt. Eden Ky.	I have the original 22" rad. in my 68 road runner. It cools the .030 over 383" with out any issues, and there is no fan shroud. I am using the MP clutch fan assy. ( Although it is dangerously close) The new engine is a mild 470" with Eddy heads and hydraulic cam. Anyone using this setup with the a similar low deck stroker? Thanks, Mark 1996 Ram 1500 Sport 1968 road runner 1952 Sears Allstate licensed, pump gas, Hemi 5.98 @ 115.73 1.33 60 ft. The best is yet to come. Painless Performance / Street RODDER magazine Top 100 for 2019

Re: Any chance a 22" radiator will cool a 470 ? [Re: Hemi Allstate] #871397 12/04/10 07:20 PM 12/04/10 07:20 PM
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gtx6970 Too Many Posts Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 21,456 It's a dry heat	Mark, a friend has a 22" in his 1969 Roadrunner convertible The only time it even tries to warm up is sitting in stop and go traffic on hot days. Otherwise it stays right at the 180-195 range. He drove it several times this summer in 95+ plus days with no problems and it doesn't have a shroud either

Re: Any chance a 22" radiator will cool a 470 ? [Re: gtx6970] #871398 12/04/10 07:23 PM 12/04/10 07:23 PM
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dynamite pro stock D Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,444 NEW JERSEY	NO IT WILL NOT !!!

Re: Any chance a 22" radiator will cool a 470 ? [Re: gtx6970] #871399 12/04/10 07:50 PM 12/04/10 07:50 PM
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Hemi Allstate OP master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,675 Mt. Eden Ky.	Quote: Mark, a friend has a 22" in his 1969 Roadrunner convertible The only time it even tries to warm up is sitting in stop and go traffic on hot days. Otherwise it stays right at the 180-195 range. He drove it several times this summer in 95+ plus days with no problems and it doesn't have a shroud either Bill, what engine is he running? 1996 Ram 1500 Sport 1968 road runner 1952 Sears Allstate licensed, pump gas, Hemi 5.98 @ 115.73 1.33 60 ft. The best is yet to come. Painless Performance / Street RODDER magazine Top 100 for 2019

Re: Any chance a 22" radiator will cool a 470 ? [Re: dynamite] #871400 12/04/10 07:54 PM 12/04/10 07:54 PM
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Hemi Allstate OP master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,675 Mt. Eden Ky.	Quote: NO IT WILL NOT !!! Hi Larry, It reads like you have little doubt about it? Have you had some issues with a 22" rad and cooling ? Thanks, Mark 1996 Ram 1500 Sport 1968 road runner 1952 Sears Allstate licensed, pump gas, Hemi 5.98 @ 115.73 1.33 60 ft. The best is yet to come. Painless Performance / Street RODDER magazine Top 100 for 2019

Re: Any chance a 22" radiator will cool a 470 ? [Re: Hemi Allstate] #871401 12/04/10 08:05 PM 12/04/10 08:05 PM
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gtx6970 Too Many Posts Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 21,456 It's a dry heat	Quote: Bill, what engine is he running? New Mopar perf crate Hemi The radiator is one of the aluminum Champion units 6337914-DSC00138.JPG (135 downloads)

Re: Any chance a 22" radiator will cool a 470 ? [Re: Hemi Allstate] #871402 12/04/10 08:08 PM 12/04/10 08:08 PM
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Pacnorthcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 21,839 Kirkland, Washington	It might, it might not. Won't know until its tried. I would venture a guess that if the system is in good shape, the WP flows well, all will be fine. Lots of factors at play here. You may want to get a shroud on there though.

Re: Any chance a 22" radiator will cool a 470 ? [Re: gtx6970] #871403 12/04/10 08:20 PM 12/04/10 08:20 PM
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Hemi Allstate OP master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,675 Mt. Eden Ky.	Quote: Quote: Bill, what engine is he running? New Mopar perf crate Hemi The radiator is one of the aluminum Champion units Bill, Who sells the Champion radiators? Thanks, Mark 1996 Ram 1500 Sport 1968 road runner 1952 Sears Allstate licensed, pump gas, Hemi 5.98 @ 115.73 1.33 60 ft. The best is yet to come. Painless Performance / Street RODDER magazine Top 100 for 2019

Re: Any chance a 22" radiator will cool a 470 ? [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #871404 12/04/10 08:26 PM 12/04/10 08:26 PM
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Hemi Allstate OP master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,675 Mt. Eden Ky.	Quote: It might, it might not. Won't know until its tried. I would venture a guess that if the system is in good shape, the WP flows well, all will be fine. Lots of factors at play here. You may want to get a shroud on there though. Greg, I will be using a Milodon high flow pump, and they work very well. I have a shroud that I could use. I am about to install this new engine and didn't want it to over heat while I am breaking in the cam. I think it might work on cooler days and not stuck in heavy traffic. Thanks, Mark 6337959-6184419-CopyofRRengine015.JPG (110 downloads) 1996 Ram 1500 Sport 1968 road runner 1952 Sears Allstate licensed, pump gas, Hemi 5.98 @ 115.73 1.33 60 ft. The best is yet to come. Painless Performance / Street RODDER magazine Top 100 for 2019

Re: Any chance a 22" radiator will cool a 470 ? [Re: Hemi Allstate] #871405 12/04/10 08:36 PM 12/04/10 08:36 PM
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gtx6970 Too Many Posts Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 21,456 It's a dry heat	Quote: Quote: Quote: Bill, what engine is he running? New Mopar perf crate Hemi The radiator is one of the aluminum Champion units Bill, Who sells the Champion radiators? Thanks, Mark No idea, customer bought it himself. He'a pilot and is out of town this weekend. I'll ask when he returns on tuesday or wednesday I think

Re: Any chance a 22" radiator will cool a 470 ? [Re: gtx6970] #871406 12/04/10 09:09 PM 12/04/10 09:09 PM
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HPMike master H Joined: May 2005 Posts: 6,446 NJ-USA	This car wears it's original 22" radiator. Engine is a 511"- 13:1 ported Edelbrock heads, etc.. Easy 650 horse. 180 all day. MB 6338030-shoppicsxxx075(Small).jpg (297 downloads)

Re: Any chance a 22" radiator will cool a 470 ? [Re: Hemi Allstate] #871407 12/04/10 09:18 PM 12/04/10 09:18 PM
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69B3GT top fuel Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,894 Mira Loma, CA	Quote: Bill, Who sells the Champion radiators? Thanks, Mark http://www.championradiators.com/ I know theres a member on here that is a dealer, I THINK its johnsgottademonbad or something like that, We just put one in my moms car and so far it works great. Goodluck with the new motor Last edited by 69B3GT; 12/04/10 10:02 PM.

Re: Any chance a 22" radiator will cool a 470 ? [Re: HPMike] #871408 12/04/10 09:20 PM 12/04/10 09:20 PM
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topside Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,841 A collage of whims	My '63 has a 3-row OEM-style 22" radiator and it's OK with my 446" motor since I put a shroud on it; without the shroud it would run 200 when sitting, now 185 (mechanical gauge). Airflow through the core is probably more important on a 22" than a 26". When I break in a fresh motor I always set up a fan in front of the car, which also helps blow the curing-paint smell away.

Re: Any chance a 22" radiator will cool a 470 ? [Re: HPMike] #871409 12/04/10 09:40 PM 12/04/10 09:40 PM
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Hemi Allstate OP master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,675 Mt. Eden Ky.	Quote: This car wears it's original 22" radiator. Engine is a 511"- 13:1 ported Edelbrock heads, etc.. Easy 650 horse. 180 all day. MB Mike, I won't doubt your word, but things are looking hot in the picture! That is more engine than what I am using for sure.I may have to give the old original a try. Is yours a 2 row? Thanks, Mark 1996 Ram 1500 Sport 1968 road runner 1952 Sears Allstate licensed, pump gas, Hemi 5.98 @ 115.73 1.33 60 ft. The best is yet to come. Painless Performance / Street RODDER magazine Top 100 for 2019

Re: Any chance a 22" radiator will cool a 470 ? [Re: 69B3GT] #871410 12/04/10 09:43 PM 12/04/10 09:43 PM
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Hemi Allstate OP master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,675 Mt. Eden Ky.	Quote: Quote: Bill, Who sells the Champion radiators? Thanks, Mark http://www.championradiators.com/ I know theres a member on here that is a deal, I THINK its johnsgottademonbad or something like that, We just put one in my moms car and so far it works great. Goodluck with the new motor Chris, Thanks for the link! Mark 1996 Ram 1500 Sport 1968 road runner 1952 Sears Allstate licensed, pump gas, Hemi 5.98 @ 115.73 1.33 60 ft. The best is yet to come. Painless Performance / Street RODDER magazine Top 100 for 2019

Re: Any chance a 22" radiator will cool a 470 ? [Re: topside] #871411 12/04/10 09:44 PM 12/04/10 09:44 PM
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dynamite pro stock D Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,444 NEW JERSEY	My issues with a smaller rad have been all over this site...Had new 24 inch alum Afco...That didnt cool my 56 with the 440,went to a 24 Chrysler rad and hhr fan,worked ok except when running hard, it cooled down when stopped,but try to cruise at highway speeds it cooked..Finally I found a 26 in radiator from a Ford pick up and it runs so cool I rarely have to use the fans...Even now with the new stroker motor..Sooo when are we going to see that Allstate burning up the 1/4 mile??? 6338099-larry556burnoutsmall.jpg (75 downloads)

Re: Any chance a 22" radiator will cool a 470 ? [Re: topside] #871412 12/04/10 09:47 PM 12/04/10 09:47 PM
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Hemi Allstate OP master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,675 Mt. Eden Ky.	Quote: My '63 has a 3-row OEM-style 22" radiator and it's OK with my 446" motor since I put a shroud on it; without the shroud it would run 200 when sitting, now 185 (mechanical gauge). Airflow through the core is probably more important on a 22" than a 26". When I break in a fresh motor I always set up a fan in front of the car, which also helps blow the curing-paint smell away. Steve, The 22" in my rr is a two row. I was thinking about having it recored to a 3 row. I have been talking to my radiator guy about it. It costs more than I expected though. Thanks, Mark 1996 Ram 1500 Sport 1968 road runner 1952 Sears Allstate licensed, pump gas, Hemi 5.98 @ 115.73 1.33 60 ft. The best is yet to come. Painless Performance / Street RODDER magazine Top 100 for 2019

Re: Any chance a 22" radiator will cool a 470 ? [Re: dynamite] #871413 12/04/10 09:56 PM 12/04/10 09:56 PM
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Hemi Allstate OP master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,675 Mt. Eden Ky.	Quote: My issues with a smaller rad have been all over this site...Had new 24 inch alum Afco...That didnt cool my 56 with the 440,went to a 24 Chrysler rad and hhr fan,worked ok except when running hard, it cooled down when stopped,but try to cruise at highway speeds it cooked..Finally I found a 26 in radiator from a Ford pick up and it runs so cool I rarely have to use the fans...Even now with the new stroker motor..Sooo when are we going to see that Allstate burning up the 1/4 mile??? Well Larry, I know if you had AFCO build that radiator it was a costly deal. I had one built for a customer last year. I hang out in the race forum mostly and I didn't read about your overheating issues! What size stroker did you go with? If all goes according to plan the Allstate will be out next season. I am about to take it apart for painting. Thanks for asking! That is a great picture of your 56! Looks like your having fun! Mark 1996 Ram 1500 Sport 1968 road runner 1952 Sears Allstate licensed, pump gas, Hemi 5.98 @ 115.73 1.33 60 ft. The best is yet to come. Painless Performance / Street RODDER magazine Top 100 for 2019

Re: Any chance a 22" radiator will cool a 470 ? [Re: gtx6970] #871414 12/04/10 10:05 PM 12/04/10 10:05 PM
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Hemi Allstate OP master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,675 Mt. Eden Ky.	Bill, I didn't see a listing for the RR but I did find one for Chargers. The price for a three core is really good/cheap!!! http://www.championradiators.com/page/400655622 Mark 1996 Ram 1500 Sport 1968 road runner 1952 Sears Allstate licensed, pump gas, Hemi 5.98 @ 115.73 1.33 60 ft. The best is yet to come. Painless Performance / Street RODDER magazine Top 100 for 2019

Re: Any chance a 22" radiator will cool a 470 ? [Re: Hemi Allstate] #871415 12/04/10 10:13 PM 12/04/10 10:13 PM
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DennisH Vacation D Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 5,278 San Jose, California	26". 4 core. Thermal. Shroud. Copper. 180 Superstat. Ma knew.

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