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#2531475 - 08/04/18 11:15 AM Re: New Passon Performance 5 Speed update [Re: EWJ]
Fasbird Offline
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I cannot see this derailing Jamie's efforts on the 855. My assumption is that he has too much investment on all fronts to get in his way. I can only hope that I am right about this.

I will be waiting for Jamie's transmission to come out.

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#2531917 - 08/05/18 01:36 PM Re: New Passon Performance 5 Speed update [Re: JamiePasson]
67autocross Offline
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Registered: 11/29/06
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Loc: Manitoba Canada
Well let’s hope this puts an end to the long waits for these transmissions, it’s such a shame that they were not readily available about 5 years ago I believe they would have sold thousands of them.
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#2532094 - 08/05/18 09:21 PM Re: New Passon Performance 5 Speed update [Re: 67autocross]
Ply72rr Offline
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Registered: 01/22/08
Posts: 505
Loc: DE
Looking at the Passon Performance website I notice there is no info on the A855 anymore. I don't know if it's because they are still building the new website or maybe they're waiting for production to ramp up before adding it. Makes me wonder.

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#2532109 - 08/05/18 10:05 PM Re: New Passon Performance 5 Speed update [Re: Ply72rr]
DAYCLONA Offline
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Registered: 12/10/07
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Loc: Mass
Originally Posted By Ply72rr
Looking at the Passon Performance website I notice there is no info on the A855 anymore. I don't know if it's because they are still building the new website or maybe they're waiting for production to ramp up before adding it. Makes me wonder.




Saw this the other day?... www.5speedmuscle.com


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#2532497 - 08/06/18 06:56 PM Re: New Passon Performance 5 Speed update [Re: DAYCLONA]
sogtx Offline
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Registered: 07/25/03
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Loc: upstate western ny
Saw this
Doesnt show 833’s nomore either lol
Id sit tight and see if more transmissions get tested
and sold by a trans guy , not a restaurant


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#2532562 - 08/06/18 09:09 PM Re: New Passon Performance 5 Speed update [Re: sogtx]
RTSE4ME Offline
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Registered: 01/20/03
Posts: 1614
Loc: MD
Quote:


The story starts with Garrett-Fuss Inc providing a Hemi 4 speed overdrive gear set for Passon Performance in the Early 2000s. The Set was a success and Passon Performance was able to develop a following for overdrive gear sets. A few years rolled by and William Fuss, Founder of GFI and Engineer behind the 5SR Project, asked the question "would a 5 speed overdrive have any interest?" Jamie Passon of Passon Performance answered with a resounding "yes" and the project was put into motion starting with a feasibility study and given the name 5 Speed Retro or 5SR Project.

Many hours were then spent with GFI and Passon Performance, working out the parameters of the new gear box. The main goal was to provide a transmissions that would fit without modifications of the car. Jamie Passon provided information on desirable ratios, fitment issues between platforms, desired torque handling capabilities and from there the A855 concept was born. William Fuss then went to work designing a gear set that would handle substantially more torque than the stock Hemi trans with the added bonus of a fifth gear that would fit inside the small space of an A833. The result, after several months, was a low helix angle gear set with carbon fiber synchronizer/blocker rings that maintains the period correct A833 look of the early 60's, 70's, and 80's Mopars, and as a bonus, will handle over 700 foot pounds of Torque.

Next on the Agenda was many months of CAD work to produce final drawings of the cases, components, and fit them together on the screen. A prototype assembly was developed and went to manufacturing for 10 initial units. Testing started with much success and a list of improvements was generated. After 2 years of road testing, revisions to the design were made, and the first production lot of 50 transmissions was manufactured, with almost all of the parts coming from right here in Pennsylvania, which they still do to this day!

Process development and tooling used up several months delaying production of the first lot, which finished in about 10 months. The units went out and customers response was even better than anticipated. After extensive testing and valuable suggestions from the end user, we were able to discover improvements that we implemented into the product design.

In 2015 John Huff of Yellowstone Garage was implemented into the project as an investor. As an avid Mopar builder and collector he has gone far above and beyond his expected involvement and is now in charge of final testing and shipping of the finished product, making him a very important part of the project. Every transmission goes to his shop and is road tested under various driving conditions including speed tests on the interstate. His involvement even goes beyond testing as he has become a major part of sales as of early 2018 and his insight and expertise are extremely valuable.

As of 2018, 8 years have passed, some of those years being very challenging, we are currently in the third lot of production. The 5SR project is expected to expand to GM designs, calling our GM 5SR the M25, you could say it's the M22 Rock Crusher's Big Brother. We have already prototyped our M25 for C2 and C3 Corvettes along with the Camaro and the Nova with the same goal of a transmission that fits the car without modification or the addition of costly adapters and components. Nobody likes to cut a Pristine car and now you don't have to.

So, thats the story of the 5SR, a transmission that fits the car without modification and can handle big horsepower. Look for other enhancements to the project in the future such as short throw shifting, road course gear ratios, and a dog ring (otherwise known as clutchless) version of both the A855 and the M25.

Our Story

I am a bit confused. 3 different entities involved
Who owns the rights?

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#2532622 - 08/06/18 11:46 PM Re: New Passon Performance 5 Speed update [Re: RTSE4ME]
lilcuda Offline
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Registered: 05/23/07
Posts: 356
Loc: Northern California
Originally Posted By RTSE4ME
Quote:


The story starts with Garrett-Fuss Inc providing a Hemi 4 speed overdrive gear set for Passon Performance in the Early 2000s. The Set was a success and Passon Performance was able to develop a following for overdrive gear sets. A few years rolled by and William Fuss, Founder of GFI and Engineer behind the 5SR Project, asked the question "would a 5 speed overdrive have any interest?" Jamie Passon of Passon Performance answered with a resounding "yes" and the project was put into motion starting with a feasibility study and given the name 5 Speed Retro or 5SR Project.

Many hours were then spent with GFI and Passon Performance, working out the parameters of the new gear box. The main goal was to provide a transmissions that would fit without modifications of the car. Jamie Passon provided information on desirable ratios, fitment issues between platforms, desired torque handling capabilities and from there the A855 concept was born. William Fuss then went to work designing a gear set that would handle substantially more torque than the stock Hemi trans with the added bonus of a fifth gear that would fit inside the small space of an A833. The result, after several months, was a low helix angle gear set with carbon fiber synchronizer/blocker rings that maintains the period correct A833 look of the early 60's, 70's, and 80's Mopars, and as a bonus, will handle over 700 foot pounds of Torque.

Next on the Agenda was many months of CAD work to produce final drawings of the cases, components, and fit them together on the screen. A prototype assembly was developed and went to manufacturing for 10 initial units. Testing started with much success and a list of improvements was generated. After 2 years of road testing, revisions to the design were made, and the first production lot of 50 transmissions was manufactured, with almost all of the parts coming from right here in Pennsylvania, which they still do to this day!

Process development and tooling used up several months delaying production of the first lot, which finished in about 10 months. The units went out and customers response was even better than anticipated. After extensive testing and valuable suggestions from the end user, we were able to discover improvements that we implemented into the product design.

In 2015 John Huff of Yellowstone Garage was implemented into the project as an investor. As an avid Mopar builder and collector he has gone far above and beyond his expected involvement and is now in charge of final testing and shipping of the finished product, making him a very important part of the project. Every transmission goes to his shop and is road tested under various driving conditions including speed tests on the interstate. His involvement even goes beyond testing as he has become a major part of sales as of early 2018 and his insight and expertise are extremely valuable.

As of 2018, 8 years have passed, some of those years being very challenging, we are currently in the third lot of production. The 5SR project is expected to expand to GM designs, calling our GM 5SR the M25, you could say it's the M22 Rock Crusher's Big Brother. We have already prototyped our M25 for C2 and C3 Corvettes along with the Camaro and the Nova with the same goal of a transmission that fits the car without modification or the addition of costly adapters and components. Nobody likes to cut a Pristine car and now you don't have to.

So, thats the story of the 5SR, a transmission that fits the car without modification and can handle big horsepower. Look for other enhancements to the project in the future such as short throw shifting, road course gear ratios, and a dog ring (otherwise known as clutchless) version of both the A855 and the M25.

Our Story

I am a bit confused. 3 different entities involved
Who owns the rights?


He probably sold out because he needed money. I'll bet his 4 speed business was suffering because of this. There is only so much time in the day.

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#2532627 - 08/07/18 12:04 AM Re: New Passon Performance 5 Speed update [Re: JamiePasson]
70HemiShaker Offline
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Maybe Jamie will chime in to clear some of this up?????
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#2532676 - 08/07/18 07:51 AM Re: New Passon Performance 5 Speed update [Re: 70HemiShaker]
Fasbird Offline
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Registered: 09/07/03
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When you go to the GFI site it shows the all trans selections as out of stock. Just sayin.
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#2532773 - 08/07/18 11:17 AM Re: New Passon Performance 5 Speed update [Re: JamiePasson]
davesmopars Offline
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Registered: 08/01/04
Posts: 2911
Loc: cheshire, ct
He is not caught up on the list yet so he may have removed it until he is caught up. Then advertise them when they are in stock and not adding to the mess. just me 2cents

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#2534318 - 08/10/18 04:23 PM Re: New Passon Performance 5 Speed update [Re: JamiePasson]
Slimfish Offline
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Registered: 10/07/15
Posts: 31
Loc: Colorado
Maybe if someone goes by his spot at the Nats they could get us an update on the A855?

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#2535312 - 08/12/18 07:32 PM Re: New Passon Performance 5 Speed update [Re: Ply72rr]
JamiePasson Offline
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Registered: 04/23/03
Posts: 860
Loc: Sugarloaf, PA. USA
The reason is because we just launched a new website and are working on re-designing the information page for the A855.
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#2535314 - 08/12/18 07:34 PM Re: New Passon Performance 5 Speed update [Re: sogtx]
JamiePasson Offline
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Registered: 04/23/03
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Loc: Sugarloaf, PA. USA
We just launched a new website and as you can see it’s pictured right on the main page. We are still selling both units, the website is just under construction.
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#2535317 - 08/12/18 07:41 PM Re: New Passon Performance 5 Speed update [Re: fastmark]
JamiePasson Offline
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Registered: 04/23/03
Posts: 860
Loc: Sugarloaf, PA. USA
Originally Posted By fastmark
When you mean OD Gears, are you talking about the five speed gears or the 4 speed set? I’ve installed two sets os the 4 speed sets with no apparent problem. I sure hope that they don’t give me problems. I would have two upset customers that have spent a lot of money with me. Please elaborate.


We are not having any issues with overdrive gears, we are currently just out of stock.
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#2535319 - 08/12/18 07:42 PM Re: New Passon Performance 5 Speed update [Re: 70sixpkRT]
JamiePasson Offline
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Registered: 04/23/03
Posts: 860
Loc: Sugarloaf, PA. USA
Originally Posted By 70sixpkRT
Anybody talk to Jamie down at Carlisle? I heard he is having problems with his gears for his Overdrive Units. I want to order one.


We are NOT having any problems with our overdrive gears. We are just currently out of stock. We are hoping to have them sometime this fall.
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#2535320 - 08/12/18 07:43 PM Re: New Passon Performance 5 Speed update [Re: Charger446]
JamiePasson Offline
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Registered: 04/23/03
Posts: 860
Loc: Sugarloaf, PA. USA
Originally Posted By Charger446
Back in 2015 I tried to order the overdrive hemi 4 speed from him and was about to get it when he called and said that some of the gears were ruined in the hardening process and it would be a longer wait.

Bummer but I ended up just having him build me a stock hemi 4 speed which I am still running now. Quality is excellent, transmission shifts great and is super quiet.

I wonder if he is having the same issues with the gears?


Not having any issues with overdrive gears. Just currently out of stock.
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#2535492 - 08/13/18 07:35 AM Re: New Passon Performance 5 Speed update [Re: JamiePasson]
Jerry Offline
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Loc: Warren, MI
Jamie, thanks for chiming in. I will definitely wait to buy my 855 from you. heres to getting the backlog filled quickly !! good luck and way to go!
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#2540326 - 08/23/18 08:11 AM Re: New Passon Performance 5 Speed update [Re: JamiePasson]
Fasbird Offline
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Posts: 4884
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Now that The Nats and Moparfest have wrapped up, was there any constructive feedback from Jamie as far as what is currently happening or the time table of next releases?

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#2540422 - 08/23/18 11:36 AM Re: New Passon Performance 5 Speed update [Re: JamiePasson]
davesmopars Offline
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Registered: 08/01/04
Posts: 2911
Loc: cheshire, ct
YES
USA Companies do not care about the small guy!

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#2540444 - 08/23/18 12:24 PM Re: New Passon Performance 5 Speed update [Re: JamiePasson]
ragtopdodge Offline
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Registered: 01/20/03
Posts: 4756
Loc: Seattle
So who's selling these?

Passon?

or

5speedmuscle?

Both?

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