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Edelbrock Perfomer Intake for a 440? #867368
11/30/10 05:40 PM
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I just talked to one of my buddies who does the dirt pit thing, anyways he has a 440 Performer Intake he will let go for $50, this is a steal. I would say lots of people over look the Performer intake, and probably have good reason.
But I figured this thing in all reality is much better than the stock unit, and probably just as good as the CH4B which from what I hear was replaced by the Performer intake.
Just wondering if anyone has any real world experience with this intake?
Im not looking to set the world on fire, just trying to assemble a powerful cruiser. Its worth the price anyways, I might just buy it and throw it on the shelf.
Anyways thanks guys


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Re: Edelbrock Perfomer Intake for a 440? [Re: Bob_Coomer] #867369
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on a sb,the performer 318/360 is just lighter/smaller runners at the head opening/needs opend up on 360 heads and not much better than a stock intake

the LD4B and LD340 is night and day and way better

the CH4B is the BB LD intake more or less,way better than a plane BB performer

the ticket now days is the performer rpm intakes,kinda best of both worlds for street and strip

not a bad deal for the weight reduction though and will be on level with a stock intake

I run the old skool LD4B/LD340 on the sb and have a weiand action plus for my stock 440

which was way better than the stocker or the performer BB intakes


Re: Edelbrock Perfomer Intake for a 440? [Re: Bob_Coomer] #867370
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I have dyno tested the Eddy Performer RPM intake versus both a Eddy Torquer two and then a Mopar M1 single plane, all within two hours of each other on a 484 pump gas street 426 wedge motor(stock size intake ports, not M.W.) and the Performer RPM was best below 5000 RPM compared to the M1 and way better all the way from 2500 RPM to 6500 RPm compare to the Tquer 2 I like tham a lot, if you don't buy it I would be glad to I'll even give you a $25.00 finders and commission fee Please let me know if you don't want it.


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Re: Edelbrock Perfomer Intake for a 440? [Re: Cab_Burge] #867371
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I have dyno tested the Eddy Performer RPM intake versus both a Eddy Torquer two and then a Mopar M1 single plane, all within two hours of each other on a 484 pump gas street 426 wedge motor(stock size intake ports, not M.W.) and the Performer RPM was best below 5000 RPM compared to the M1 and way better all the way from 2500 RPM to 6500 RPm compare to the Tquer 2 I like tham a lot, if you don't buy it I would be glad to I'll even give you a $25.00 finders and commission fee Please let me know if you don't want it.



Good info Cab.
But this is the Performer not the Performer RPM.
I probably will buy it, but Im thinking very hard and just get the RPM.
I believe with this street motor, the cam, intake, and carb will make the diff between a good running engine, and a great running engine.
I probably will just order a new Intake (Performer RPM) and be done with it.
I just hope hood clearance, and kick down linkage wont b a hassle.


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Re: Edelbrock Perfomer Intake for a 440? [Re: Bob_Coomer] #867372
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Its better then a stock intake and lighter too. The price is right, but IMO the RPM can do everything the Performer can do and then some. Even the RPM can be considered a restriction in some mild motors. For $50 bucs it is hard to pass up, but Id apply that to get a RPM, mike

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Re: Edelbrock Perfomer Intake for a 440? [Re: Bob_Coomer] #867373
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I have probably heard 100 times that it is a POS. Maybe it is, but I have not seen any credible data to support the claims. When I'm ready, I will buy one and test it for myself. My guess: as good as or better than stock at all RPMs, and not as good as the RPM above 3000 rpm.

Re: Edelbrock Perfomer Intake for a 440? [Re: BSB67] #867374
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The "performer" is a descent RV manifold but don't expect it to make any top end power. It'll hit the wall at 5000-5200. The runners are smaller than the Factory 70-71 cast iron stocker which is arguably a superior piece.

The CH4B is what you should be looking at ; performance on par with the RPM and low carb height so the stock throttle & kickdown linkage will work. You will have to modify the stock linkage or go to an aftermarket (raised) bracket if you decide to use the RPM.

The CH4B will support 600HP according to the MM manifold shootout a few years back.

I had a Performer on my old 440 and wasn't impressed at all. A swap to an old school Torker was night and day difference. That 440 with a Crower HDP282 hydraulic pulled solidly to 5800 with the manifold swap. With the Performer it felt dead at 5000


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Re: Edelbrock Perfomer Intake for a 440? [Re: BSB67] #867375
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I have probably heard 100 times that it is a POS. Maybe it is, but I have not seen any credible data to support the claims. When I'm ready, I will buy one and test it for myself. My guess: as good as or better than stock at all RPMs, and not as good as the RPM above 3000 rpm.




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Re: Edelbrock Perfomer Intake for a 440? [Re: firefighter3931] #867376
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The RV guys love them , I tried one out for grins on a 10:1 440 and didn't think it was much if any better than a stocker, definately not on par with the Weiand Action plus or the CH4b which were really the only other dual planes at the time (Pre RPM days).

I think I'd pass for what you have in mind, if you want to look stock and flow mad air I'd look at the Indy 440-2d...a little radius work on #4 and #7 is all they need to get them all to flow about 315 cfm at the 906 size port.

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Re: Edelbrock Perfomer Intake for a 440? [Re: Bob_Coomer] #867377
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I ran one for 10 years, replacing it with an rpm when the rpm heads went on.

Originally, the performer went on a 8.8:1 motor with factory exhaust manifolds, that I previously used to beat at the track on mopar day track events. I had a comp cam .501 292 and a SD intake on it back then. Later I switched to a mp 509 292, which was more impressive but peaky power without headers and a full walker exhaust.

I bought an old digger and was racing that, so I tuned down the driver by changing to the mp .474 280 and the performer intake.

I drove it to Grand Bend and entered it on Mopar day. The difference in traction with street tires was extrememely obvious. I blew the tires off the car in every gear, at every gear change. Traction was easier with the other combination of "bad" parts.

I pulled the 4.10 gear and replaced it with a 3.23. The car was a joy to drive, but like others say: runs out of breath at about 5,000 rpm (at least with my combo at the time). The car ran 14 flat or so with great consistancy. It didn't matter, it was just a tire shredding driver. The power likely dropped 50 hp from peak, but torque in the useable driving range was impressive. I know this is useless if you can't hook it up. Getting up on the factory high stall could shred tires for 2 full parking lots at the Chrysler plant I worked at at the time (Pillette Road Truck Assembly).

A stock intake may have made a little more hp and had a higher peak rpm, but that performer made impressive torque till about 4,000 rpm.

Just for the record, switching to rpm heads, rpm intake, tti headers, and mandatory DOTs gave that shortblock almost 2 full seconds of ET reduction.

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