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Re: Is heads up racing dead in the mopar world? [Re: n20mstr] #858984
11/24/10 02:33 AM
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I hate internal combustion engines!
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Its a boutique class, annual (if so)

Stock looking Mopar on true ten 5's with an interior and stockish exterior.

Period.

Nobody is going to show up with a ringer for $5000...keep the rules light and Ill personally plug it to heck through my company.

Re: Is heads up racing dead in the mopar world? [Re: SRT6776] #858985
11/24/10 02:38 AM
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Maybe on the track, but its always heads up on the street. So I say no.

Re: Is heads up racing dead in the mopar world? [Re: SRT6776] #858986
11/24/10 02:42 AM
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I WILL DO ALL THE FLYERS AND MARKETING FOR FREE

Post your car / action pics here....

Re: Is heads up racing dead in the mopar world? [Re: SRT6776] #858987
11/24/10 02:46 AM
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once you guys get it all figured out, start a new post with the details

Re: Is heads up racing dead in the mopar world? [Re: BobsProFab] #858988
11/24/10 02:49 AM
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This will be like Government.. Nothing will ever get figured out..


Chris..

Re: Is heads up racing dead in the mopar world? [Re: Chris'sBarracuda] #858989
11/24/10 02:55 AM
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OK...You guys that want heads up have your official thread!! It is a sticky...I hope you make it happen!!


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Re: Is heads up racing dead in the mopar world? [Re: tboomer] #858990
11/24/10 12:24 PM
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mopar
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My suggestion for rules and I have no dog in the fight because I run a sbf in my dart

1/8 Mile, Heads Up, .400 Pro Tree, 32 Car Field, Sportsman Ladder, Lane choice goes to higher qualifier first round, and then the faster car from previous round.

Rear Tires
29.5" x 10.5 non W or 315 drag radial or smaller

Front Chassis/Suspension

All door cars allowed must add. 100lb for tube chassis car

Rear Chassis/Suspension
Any type rear suspension allowed.
Engine
Any engine combination allowed. Motor plates and solid mounts allowed. Mufflers required for all cars except turbocharged entries. All nitrous bottles to be safety vented pop off to outside the vehicle.

Transmission
All allowed must add 50lb for clutchless type

Weights
SB/BB N/A No Weight Limit
SB NOS 2500 lbs
BB NOS 3100 lbs
SB Turbo 3100 lbs
SB Twins Supercharger/Turbos 3150 lbs
SB Supercharger 3100 lbs
BB Supercharger 3200 lbs
BB Single Turbo 3200 lbs
BB Twins Supercharger/Turbos 3250 lbs
Leaf Springs - Subtract 100lbs

Basic same rules as outlaw without the frame rail factory location stuff. Because with a once or twice a year race who wants to build a car for it and many mopar racers would not make it if those rules are in and if everyone weighs the same it is not that big of a deal

Re: Is heads up racing dead in the mopar world? [Re: cold85] #858991
11/24/10 01:01 PM
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Well as pointed out in the post previously the problem with most heads up stuff is many guys will not show up simply because they dont think they have a chance to win. Simple as that...That mindset it what kills most heads up stuff. Well that along with there is always someone with deep enough pockets to come out and just blow things out of the water. This leads to the previous point and things spiral from there. Problem two as pointed out is everyone seems to want the rules to favor thier particular car. IMO keep it simple. The more simple you keep the rules the more people that MAY show up, I mean brutally simple. If and when the time comes to ad rules, after the ball gets rolling then by all means do it. If guys feel it is unfair that way well they will be the same ones crying foul when they cant compete anyway.

We have a local deal around. The rules here well are pretty much limited to nothing, just an entry fee, usually of a few hundred dollars..Just bring your junk out and hope it is enough. We have everything from tube chassis index cars to Xtreme drag radial cars all competing against each other and may the best man win. BTW the fastes car in attendance has yet to win the money at the end of the night. This format seems to work well and brings out enough cars to make it worth while. just my


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Re: Is heads up racing dead in the mopar world? [Re: Al_Alguire] #858992
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That makes sense to me, Al..and possibly the only way this will ever happen..or be successful.

Re: Is heads up racing dead in the mopar world? [Re: B1Fish540] #858993
11/24/10 06:42 PM
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I'm in for $1000.00 and an extra $500.00 if the winner is running Predator heads!!!!

The Dart weighs 3660 lbs as it sits now on TT5 tires.

Re: Is heads up racing dead in the mopar world? [Re: gillman34] #858994
11/25/10 11:24 AM
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super stock
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Bowlin Green sounds good to me, I'll be on 275's or 315's

Re: Is heads up racing dead in the mopar world? [Re: Dustedu] #858995
11/25/10 02:17 PM
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mopar
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Where ever it is we will be their.But I would have it at a IHRA track because most of the nhra tracks won't allow people to spend the night at the track.Thanks Kenny


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Re: Is heads up racing dead in the mopar world? [Re: bdaz smblk] #858996
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What's the groups long term goal? If you're trying to create a REAL series, then have as few as rules as possible for the first race. This will maximize the number of people that show up. Keep the purse semi low, otherwise more rules creep in on the first event. The goal is to get everyone to the track, on the same day, under the same conditions, with as many combo's as possible. That will allow everyone to see where everyone is. From there, you can make effective rules. You need to see if there is real interest. If it doesn't cost a lot to go to the first one and everyone understands what the goal is, you can start to build a series. Look at what 275 has done. You start off simple and as it grew, put in more rules, just like any series.

Don't obsess about a car that exists on the internet. If #1 qualifier won every time, we wouldn't have to turn on the TV to find out who won the NHRA/IHRA races.

Having owned a track, I saw this conversation take place countless times. From talking to other track owners and seeing it myself, have as few a rules as possible to start. Then go from there. This is supposed to be about having fun and enjoying mopars. Don't regulate the fun out of the first race because there is too much money at stake and everyone bitching about rules.

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