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Re: Is heads up racing dead in the mopar world? [Re: bigtimeauto] #858944
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for this to work it needs less rules,some of you guys want the rules to fit around your cars,and most peoples cars are diffrient,the only rules should be weight of the car and the tire size, or have 2 classes...big block cars and small block cars....if a guy wants to race his dragster put on the weight and a 10.5 tire i,ll grab a lane next to him...You have some people willing to put some money for this event to happen...Don,t kill it with all your rules,ya never know this could turn out to be a killer event




I agree to a point but we need the NA guys to have a chance and its not safe to put more than a couple of hundred pounds in a car.


open cars need to race with themselves.


I was kidding about the dragster thing...just trying to make a point!,let the NA guys have a class for themselfs,instead of all the rules now you have 4 classes bigblocks,small blocks. NA big blocks and NA small blocks....There now you have a class for everybody the more cars the bigger the event and everybody leaves on a instant green light,That would help for more of a fair playing field...just a thought.

Re: Is heads up racing dead in the mopar world? [Re: n20mstr] #858945
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I'am in!!!!!!!!!!!
The Truck is done.
I say to hell with a lot of rules!!!This Small block VS big block $hit is getting old.Most small blocks are as big or bigger than my big block.
I'll throw $500.00 in the pot.


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Re: Is heads up racing dead in the mopar world? [Re: 8secDart] #858946
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I'am in!!!!!!!!!!!
The Truck is done.
I say to hell with a lot of rules!!!This Small block VS big block $hit is getting old.Most small blocks are as big or bigger than my big block.
I'll throw $500.00 in the pot.






What would you suggest for rules?

I don't want to be a Chief either, but I'll be an Indian........

I nominate Gary for being the head Chief, since he was the first to step up and offer some moolah......

If you're going to try to get a sponsor or two, it'd be smart to put it in with another Mopar race/show that already has a decent sized turnout to give the potential sponsors incentive.....that's why I'd suggested the Mopar Nats.... My thought was that if they set aside a parking area for these cars, it wouldn't be such a cluster??? but again, I'm up for whatever, wherever.......


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Re: Is heads up racing dead in the mopar world? [Re: Big Squeeze] #858947
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I'am in!!!!!!!!!!!
The Truck is done.
I say to hell with a lot of rules!!!This Small block VS big block $hit is getting old.Most small blocks are as big or bigger than my big block.
I'll throw $500.00 in the pot.






What would you suggest for rules?



I'am Not. I'am a racer not a promoter!!!!

Re: Is heads up racing dead in the mopar world? [Re: 8secDart] #858948
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What would you suggest for rules?



I'am Not. I'am a racer not a promoter!!!!




I just figured since you've been around the block, you might have some valuable suggestions.....


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Re: Is heads up racing dead in the mopar world? [Re: 8secDart] #858949
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Update:
Silverfish.... $2500.
Bigtime....... $1000.
Big Squeeze.. $1000.
8Seconddart.. $500.

And the money tree grows...Lets not kill this idea with bickering and to damn many rules and have a killer time and get to see some cool and fast MOPARS all in one place!I think Bob's on the right track and a blind draw for pairing really makes it interesting...Gary

Re: Is heads up racing dead in the mopar world? [Re: Big Squeeze] #858950
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If everyone is putting money into a pot why not do it like Cash days / KOTS and just have each racer pay $500 to enter and winner takes all or divide it down to the semi's.

Thats still OK money if only 10 cars showed up.

Here is a video of the last KOTS race, albeit a Mopar version would be far less dramatic..but it shows they can be done without any sponsors.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89z1ahQV0NI&feature=related

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Re: Is heads up racing dead in the mopar world? [Re: SRT6776] #858951
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Where is this mopar nats you speak of?


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Re: Is heads up racing dead in the mopar world? [Re: bigtimeauto] #858952
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IMO: dont try and re invent the wheel on rules
look at some successful heads up classes and go with there rules.
take Milans Outlaw Limited Street
its very successful and everyones cars should fall into the rules

Re: Is heads up racing dead in the mopar world? [Re: bigtimeauto] #858953
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Where is this mopar nats you speak of?




Columbus, Ohio........it is pretty packed though........but, if we could get them to park us in one spot like they do the F.A.S.T. cars I think it'd be a great place to do it.....

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IMO: dont try and re invent the wheel on rules
look at some successful heads up classes and go with there rules.
take Milans Outlaw Limited Street
its very successful and everyones cars should fall into the rules




Where's a link to the rules?


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Re: Is heads up racing dead in the mopar world? [Re: bigtimeauto] #858954
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Where is this mopar nats you speak of?




You are joking, right???

Re: Is heads up racing dead in the mopar world? [Re: moparguy7074] #858955
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Where is this mopar nats you speak of?




You are joking, right???





No why?


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Re: Is heads up racing dead in the mopar world? [Re: bigtimeauto] #858956
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this class draws cars and people to the stands

from there site:
Outlaw Limited Street
1/8 Mile, Heads Up, .400 Pro Tree, 32 Car Field, Sportsman Ladder, Lane choice goes to higher qualifier first round, and then the faster car from previous round.

Rear Tires
29.5" x 10.5 non W or 315 drag radial or smaller

Front Chassis/Suspension
Stock front frame rails and suspension required. Aftermarket control arms and bushings allowed as long as they bolt in stock locations. Rack and pinion steering allowed. Aftermarket coil over shocks allowed and aftermarket direct replacement struts are allowed, but must bolt in stock location.

Aftermarket bolt in sub-frame allowed. Must bolt in unaltered stock OEM mounting locations. OEM suspension configuration required. These bolt on subframes must be from a manufacturer with designated company part numbers and must be produced for the vehicle they were designed for from the manufacturer.

Rear Chassis/Suspension
Any type rear suspension allowed. Firewall must be retained and in stock location.

Engine
Any engine combination allowed. Motor plates and solid mounts allowed. Mufflers required for all cars except turbocharged entries. All nitrous bottles to be safety vented pop off to outside the vehicle.

Transmission
Any type automatic or OEM manual transmission allowed.

Weights
SB/BB N/A No Weight Limit
SB NOS 2500 lbs
BB NOS 3100 lbs
SB Turbo 3100 lbs
SB Twins Supercharger/Turbos 3150 lbs
SB Supercharger 3100 lbs
BB Supercharger 3200 lbs
BB Single Turbo 3200 lbs
BB Twins Supercharger/Turbos 3250 lbs
Leaf Springs - Subtract 100lbs

Re: Is heads up racing dead in the mopar world? [Re: bigtimeauto] #858957
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Where is this mopar nats you speak of?




You are joking, right???





No why?




I find it hard to believe you've never heard of the Mopar Nationals. Its been going on for what, 32 years?

Re: Is heads up racing dead in the mopar world? [Re: bigtimeauto] #858958
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Where is this mopar nats you speak of?




You are joking, right???





No why?




I'm sure he's surprised that you don't haven't heard about it......It's the largest Mopar only event.....


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Re: Is heads up racing dead in the mopar world? [Re: bigtimeauto] #858959
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Where is this mopar nats you speak of?




You are joking, right???





No why?




Whats sad is Mopar people attending these events would much rather see the F.A.S.T. cars...


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Re: Is heads up racing dead in the mopar world? [Re: Big Squeeze] #858960
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Where is this mopar nats you speak of?




You are joking, right???





No why?




I'm sure he's surprised that you don't haven't heard about it......It's the largest Mopar only event.....




Oh yeah, and that too!

Re: Is heads up racing dead in the mopar world? [Re: BobsProFab] #858961
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this class draws cars and people to the stands

from there site:
Outlaw Limited Street
1/8 Mile, Heads Up, .400 Pro Tree, 32 Car Field, Sportsman Ladder, Lane choice goes to higher qualifier first round, and then the faster car from previous round.

Rear Tires
29.5" x 10.5 non W or 315 drag radial or smaller

Front Chassis/Suspension
Stock front frame rails and suspension required. Aftermarket control arms and bushings allowed as long as they bolt in stock locations. Rack and pinion steering allowed. Aftermarket coil over shocks allowed and aftermarket direct replacement struts are allowed, but must bolt in stock location.

Aftermarket bolt in sub-frame allowed. Must bolt in unaltered stock OEM mounting locations. OEM suspension configuration required. These bolt on subframes must be from a manufacturer with designated company part numbers and must be produced for the vehicle they were designed for from the manufacturer.

Rear Chassis/Suspension
Any type rear suspension allowed. Firewall must be retained and in stock location.

Engine
Any engine combination allowed. Motor plates and solid mounts allowed. Mufflers required for all cars except turbocharged entries. All nitrous bottles to be safety vented pop off to outside the vehicle.

Transmission
Any type automatic or OEM manual transmission allowed.

Weights
SB/BB N/A No Weight Limit
SB NOS 2500 lbs
BB NOS 3100 lbs
SB Turbo 3100 lbs
SB Twins Supercharger/Turbos 3150 lbs
SB Supercharger 3100 lbs
BB Supercharger 3200 lbs
BB Single Turbo 3200 lbs
BB Twins Supercharger/Turbos 3250 lbs
Leaf Springs - Subtract 100lbs




Looks perfect to me............


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Re: Is heads up racing dead in the mopar world? [Re: BobsProFab] #858962
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this class draws cars and people to the stands

from there site:
Outlaw Limited Street
1/8 Mile, Heads Up, .400 Pro Tree, 32 Car Field, Sportsman Ladder, Lane choice goes to higher qualifier first round, and then the faster car from previous round.

Rear Tires
29.5" x 10.5 non W or 315 drag radial or smaller

Front Chassis/Suspension
Stock front frame rails and suspension required. Aftermarket control arms and bushings allowed as long as they bolt in stock locations. Rack and pinion steering allowed. Aftermarket coil over shocks allowed and aftermarket direct replacement struts are allowed, but must bolt in stock location.

Aftermarket bolt in sub-frame allowed. Must bolt in unaltered stock OEM mounting locations. OEM suspension configuration required. These bolt on subframes must be from a manufacturer with designated company part numbers and must be produced for the vehicle they were designed for from the manufacturer.

Rear Chassis/Suspension
Any type rear suspension allowed. Firewall must be retained and in stock location.

Engine
Any engine combination allowed. Motor plates and solid mounts allowed. Mufflers required for all cars except turbocharged entries. All nitrous bottles to be safety vented pop off to outside the vehicle.

Transmission
Any type automatic or OEM manual transmission allowed.

Weights
SB/BB N/A No Weight Limit
SB NOS 2500 lbs
BB NOS 3100 lbs
SB Turbo 3100 lbs
SB Twins Supercharger/Turbos 3150 lbs
SB Supercharger 3100 lbs
BB Supercharger 3200 lbs
BB Single Turbo 3200 lbs
BB Twins Supercharger/Turbos 3250 lbs
Leaf Springs - Subtract 100lbs




Bob is right, its unbelievable the amount of people that fill the stands for these events at Milan!

Re: Is heads up racing dead in the mopar world? [Re: moparguy7074] #858963
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Where is this mopar nats you speak of?




You are joking, right???





No why?




I find it hard to believe you've never heard of the Mopar Nationals. Its been going on for what, 32 years?




yea, but isnt it just a big bracket race and car show....and then people do burnouts all night on Brice rd??

LOL


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