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Re: Is heads up racing dead in the mopar world? [Re: Big Squeeze] #858924
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I won't run without my sissy bars. just sayin




Awe, you're killing me!!!.....We CAN'T have sissy bars at this race!!!

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What about the Mopar Nationals???

what would be a base weight for N/A small block ?
would it be 2,600
300 minus 2900 for the nitrous small block

i wont run either without the sissy sticks




Correct, as far as I know......but WOW, that'd be light......

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when???

where??




What about the Mopar Nationals???






I enjoy the mopar nats but not racing there, just too crowded for me. I still like clay city, KY for a race like this. Its a pretty central location and nice laid back track, pretty track, good food and always works good.


One day I will have something cool here.
Re: Is heads up racing dead in the mopar world? [Re: sdaurity] #858925
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i dont think the Nats would be a good place for it also.

maybe Josh can have the deal setup @ Indy ?
they are trying to put together a heads up series and promise world class prep there !

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Re: Is heads up racing dead in the mopar world? [Re: BobsProFab] #858926
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Yeah, I don't think the Nat's is the place to do this race.


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Re: Is heads up racing dead in the mopar world? [Re: an8sec70cuda] #858927
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Cool.......I'm up for where ever......

I like very little rules too.......but using weight and tire size is pretty loose IMHO.........Heck, even a Top Fuel car can race, it just needs to weigh 5,000lbs and run on 29.5" tires........


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Re: Is heads up racing dead in the mopar world? [Re: sdaurity] #858928
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I say no on the Mopar Nats just because its more of a show thing and it would be hard to fit this in there. Shows are fine but this will be a different type of show if you know what I mean.

Wheelie Bars - we don't use them right now but it wouldn't bother me if they are allowed.

If this is really gonna happen then the guys that are saying they will put up the money, my dad(Gary Robbins) being one of them, need to say for sure if they are serious about this and then we need to nominate a couple guys to coordinate it. We can take a vote on where to have it and if its a total purse thing or a "winner take all" thing. We can also take a vote on the rules. I still say the rules need to be fairly loose. I am willing to do some legwork on this if the forementioned guys are serious about it.

I think it could be a pretty big race and it looks like there is quite a bit of interest as long as we keep it simple and not too complicated.

Re: Is heads up racing dead in the mopar world? [Re: silverfish] #858929
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I run at Thompson and they have a Renegade class there. It's an 8.90 heads up index and next summer they'll have a 10.50 index, they are growing fast because they don't have alot of rules. Have to have a stock type dash and carpet, and no stickers all over the body of the car. Other than that, tire size and suspension doesn't matter, wheelie bars are allowed etc etc.


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Re: Is heads up racing dead in the mopar world? [Re: ProSport] #858930
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No gutted race cars, interior, roll up windows, no back seat ok but must be carpeted? tt5 or 315 tire.
BB power adder 3300lbs
Smallblock power adder 3100lbs
NA BB 3000lbs
NA SB 2800lbs
street appearing is the key. Must post pics of your car efore the race with its weight.


how about these for rules?

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Re: Is heads up racing dead in the mopar world? [Re: bigtimeauto] #858931
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Sounds good to me.


Nexyt year will be fuel injected 470", 101mm, a2w cooler, caltracs, 275's, 3300lbs. This pic is older just looks a little different.



One day I will have something cool here.
Re: Is heads up racing dead in the mopar world? [Re: bigtimeauto] #858932
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No gutted race cars, interior, roll up windows, no back seat ok but must be carpeted? tt5 or 315 tire.
BB power adder 3300lbs
Smallblock power adder 3100lbs
NA BB 3000lbs
NA SB 2800lbs
street appearing is the key. Must post pics of your car efore the race with its weight.


how about these for rules?




those rules look great....
the only thing i would change is to allow weight breaks for guys using factory blocks
also you need to have some rule about heads...Preadators or B1TS or B1PSO are a lot better than 440-1, calssify them as Non Conventional
Best thing is use the above weights as base and deduct from there

Deduct for factory block
Deduct for conventional heads

not looking to complicate the rules any, just give weight breaks for people running "cheaper" or more common equipment

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Re: Is heads up racing dead in the mopar world? [Re: bigtimeauto] #858933
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No gutted race cars, interior, roll up windows, no back seat ok but must be carpeted? tt5 or 315 tire.
BB power adder 3300lbs
Smallblock power adder 3100lbs
NA BB 3000lbs
NA SB 2800lbs
street appearing is the key. Must post pics of your car efore the race with its weight.


how about these for rules?





I think you are on the right track. I think the majority of our cars can fit those rules and everyone still be competitive.

One big thing is that your car must be MOPAR powered!

Another idea I like is instead of pro ladder make it a random draw. Put all numbers in a hat and draw for pairings. Most of the heads up races in Oklahoma are ran that way and it works out pretty good. Puts another nice wrinkle in things.

Re: Is heads up racing dead in the mopar world? [Re: bigtimeauto] #858934
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No gutted race cars, interior, roll up windows, no back seat ok but must be carpeted? tt5 or 315 tire.
BB power adder 3500lbs
Smallblock power adder 3300lbs
NA BB 3200lbs
NA SB 3000lbs
street appearing is the key. Must post pics of your car efore the race with its weight.


how about these for rules?




I edited it


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Re: Is heads up racing dead in the mopar world? [Re: moparniac] #858935
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IF you want to know why Mopar guys dont race heads up.......just look at the BG thread about restoring that Hemi car....people in there are crying over the rust on the balancer and the "patina" of the old paint. Thats what you are delaing with, 99% of people that are into Mopars are....


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Re: Is heads up racing dead in the mopar world? [Re: moparniac] #858936
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No gutted race cars, interior, roll up windows, no back seat ok but must be carpeted? tt5 or 315 tire.
BB power adder 3300lbs
Smallblock power adder 3100lbs
NA BB 3000lbs
NA SB 2800lbs
street appearing is the key. Must post pics of your car efore the race with its weight.


how about these for rules?




I edited it




i refixed it


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Re: Is heads up racing dead in the mopar world? [Re: n20mstr] #858937
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for this to work it needs less rules,some of you guys want the rules to fit around your cars,and most peoples cars are diffrient,the only rules should be weight of the car and the tire size, or have 2 classes...big block cars and small block cars....if a guy wants to race his dragster put on the weight and a 10.5 tire i,ll grab a lane next to him...You have some people willing to put some money for this event to happen...Don,t kill it with all your rules,ya never know this could turn out to be a killer event

Re: Is heads up racing dead in the mopar world? [Re: silverfish] #858938
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No gutted race cars, interior, roll up windows, no back seat ok but must be carpeted? tt5 or 315 tire.
BB power adder 3300lbs
Smallblock power adder 3100lbs
NA BB 3000lbs
NA SB 2800lbs
street appearing is the key. Must post pics of your car efore the race with its weight.


how about these for rules?





I think you are on the right track. I think the majority of our cars can fit those rules and everyone still be competitive.

One big thing is that your car must be MOPAR powered!

Another idea I like is instead of pro ladder make it a random draw. Put all numbers in a hat and draw for pairings. Most of the heads up races in Oklahoma are ran that way and it works out pretty good. Puts another nice wrinkle in things.




Sounds good to me. I thought at the beginning we said mopar powered mopar vehicle.


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Re: Is heads up racing dead in the mopar world? [Re: old yeller] #858939
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for this to work it needs less rules,some of you guys want the rules to fit around your cars,and most peoples cars are diffrient,the only rules should be weight of the car and the tire size, or have 2 classes...big block cars and small block cars....if a guy wants to race his dragster put on the weight and a 10.5 tire i,ll grab a lane next to him...You have some people willing to put some money for this event to happen...Don,t kill it with all your rules,ya never know this could turn out to be a killer event




I agree to a point but we need the NA guys to have a chance and its not safe to put more than a couple of hundred pounds in a car.


open cars need to race with themselves.


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Re: Is heads up racing dead in the mopar world? [Re: bigtimeauto] #858940
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all you really need for this is a SPONSOR...


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Re: Is heads up racing dead in the mopar world? [Re: sdaurity] #858941
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Whoa!...Everybody slow down...Looks like this could happen,but to many chiefs and not enough indians doesn't ever work...I'M 100% in on the $2500. and it looks like Bigtime (Bob) and Big Squeeze (Wayne) are in for $1000. each and i'm sure there will be more!...This would be a cool deal if we can make it happen,but everyone needs to understand we have to have fairly loose rules to make it work,please don't forget the GRUDGE part so we can try to include all small tire MOPARS(n/a-turbo-blower-nitrous)and have one hell of a time!...Ideas are great,but ultimatly you have to have a small group make the final decisions...Don't know anything about the Clay City track in Kentucky,but i'm going to be open minded on the location.The Bowling Green track is easy to get to for a lot of racers and should be a good track...Gary

P.S.I'M SORRY FOR HIJACKING YOUR THREAD OLD YELLER(AKA BIRD)AND YOUR CAR WILL FIT THE RULES!

Re: Is heads up racing dead in the mopar world? [Re: Gary Robbins] #858942
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Whoa!...Everybody slow down...Looks like this could happen,but to many chiefs and not enough indians doesn't ever work...I'M 100% in on the $2500. and it looks like Bigtime (Bob) and Big Squeeze (Wayne) are in for $1000. each and i'm sure there will be more!...This would be a cool deal if we can make it happen,but everyone needs to understand we have to have fairly loose rules to make it work,please don't forget the GRUDGE part so we can try to include all small tire MOPARS(n/a-turbo-blower-nitrous)and have one hell of a time!...Ideas are great,but ultimatly you have to have a small group make the final decisions...Don't know anything about the Clay City track in Kentucky,but i'm going to be open minded on the location.The Bowling Green track is easy to get to for a lot of racers and should be a good track...Gary

P.S.I'M SORRY FOR HIJACKING YOUR THREAD OLD YELLER(AKA BIRD)AND YOUR CAR WILL FIT THE RULES!




im no chief....im an indian, tell me when and where, IF i can make it i will, and if i get dragged down the track.....it wont be the first time LOL ! ! !


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Re: Is heads up racing dead in the mopar world? [Re: Gary Robbins] #858943
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This sounds really cool, kinda like a pipe dream but hopefully it works out. Everyones getting to far away from the idea of keeping it simple with all the rules. 3000lbs, true 10" tires, let it eat. I would come and im nowehere near competitive with those rules. Who wants all that tech for one race?....oh and since its a GRUDGE race, can we NOT show times

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