Is heads up racing dead in the mopar world?
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Re: Is heads up racing dead in the mopar world?
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11/21/10 12:26 AM
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I would have to say YES its dead. ProMax Carbs tried to run Extreme street and Muscle Street classes at Mopar Nationals, and Monster Mopar in 2008 and 2009. These were basically muffler "street" classes with weight limits imposed to even out the big blocks and small blocks, broken into power added and non-power added classes. They got 4-6 cars between BOTH classes out of the 200+ cars racing at each event. No way to get sponsors to support a prize purse in a class when only 2-3 cars participate. Seemed no one wanted to spend $50 to enter a class when they thought someone was going to be faster. So one 9.80 all-motor car shows up and no other cars would enter the muscle street class. The rules were fairly simple and I think they can still be found in the forums on the ProMax website. KOS races did well in the late 90's and into about 2004. Then a few wicked fast cars were built, and everyone else seemed to be satisfied with taking their chances at bracket racing. Index racing seems to draw racers much easier than heads-up now days. When they run a 6.50 race at a local 1/8 mile track, 15-20 cars would enter. The 10.00 1/4 mile classes seem to do well also. Just my Scott
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Re: Is heads up racing dead in the mopar world?
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11/21/10 12:33 AM
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Not unless you're quitting.
Sorry,but after reading your responce it made me laugh so hard i spit out my jack and coke!!!...its people like you that keep me going ...god bless!!
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Re: Is heads up racing dead in the mopar world?
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11/21/10 01:43 AM
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I would have to say YES its dead.
ProMax Carbs tried to run Extreme street and Muscle Street classes at Mopar Nationals, and Monster Mopar in 2008 and 2009. These were basically muffler "street" classes with weight limits imposed to even out the big blocks and small blocks, broken into power added and non-power added classes. They got 4-6 cars between BOTH classes out of the 200+ cars racing at each event.
No way to get sponsors to support a prize purse in a class when only 2-3 cars participate.
Seemed no one wanted to spend $50 to enter a class when they thought someone was going to be faster. So one 9.80 all-motor car shows up and no other cars would enter the muscle street class.
The rules were fairly simple and I think they can still be found in the forums on the ProMax website.
KOS races did well in the late 90's and into about 2004. Then a few wicked fast cars were built, and everyone else seemed to be satisfied with taking their chances at bracket racing.
Index racing seems to draw racers much easier than heads-up now days. When they run a 6.50 race at a local 1/8 mile track, 15-20 cars would enter. The 10.00 1/4 mile classes seem to do well also.
Just my
Scott
The problem with the promax stuff here around indy is NO ONE KNOWS about it. Its not advertised....its not talked about... no one hypes it up....there for no one shows up....
Ed is correct 100%...no Mopars play in this field....either they are scared to lose, or they are stuck on bracket racing....
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Re: Is heads up racing dead in the mopar world?
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11/21/10 01:44 AM
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I would have to say YES its dead.
ProMax Carbs tried to run Extreme street and Muscle Street classes at Mopar Nationals, and Monster Mopar in 2008 and 2009. These were basically muffler "street" classes with weight limits imposed to even out the big blocks and small blocks, broken into power added and non-power added classes. They got 4-6 cars between BOTH classes out of the 200+ cars racing at each event.
No way to get sponsors to support a prize purse in a class when only 2-3 cars participate.
Seemed no one wanted to spend $50 to enter a class when they thought someone was going to be faster. So one 9.80 all-motor car shows up and no other cars would enter the muscle street class.
The rules were fairly simple and I think they can still be found in the forums on the ProMax website.
KOS races did well in the late 90's and into about 2004. Then a few wicked fast cars were built, and everyone else seemed to be satisfied with taking their chances at bracket racing.
Index racing seems to draw racers much easier than heads-up now days. When they run a 6.50 race at a local 1/8 mile track, 15-20 cars would enter. The 10.00 1/4 mile classes seem to do well also.
Just my
Scott
The problem with the promax stuff here around indy is NO ONE KNOWS about it. Its not advertised....its not talked about... no one hypes it up....there for no one shows up....
Ed is correct 100%...no Mopars play in this field....either they are scared to loose, or they are stuck on bracket racing....
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Re: Is heads up racing dead in the mopar world?
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I would have to say YES its dead.
ProMax Carbs tried to run Extreme street and Muscle Street classes at Mopar Nationals, and Monster Mopar in 2008 and 2009. These were basically muffler "street" classes with weight limits imposed to even out the big blocks and small blocks, broken into power added and non-power added classes. They got 4-6 cars between BOTH classes out of the 200+ cars racing at each event.
No way to get sponsors to support a prize purse in a class when only 2-3 cars participate.
Seemed no one wanted to spend $50 to enter a class when they thought someone was going to be faster. So one 9.80 all-motor car shows up and no other cars would enter the muscle street class.
The rules were fairly simple and I think they can still be found in the forums on the ProMax website.
KOS races did well in the late 90's and into about 2004. Then a few wicked fast cars were built, and everyone else seemed to be satisfied with taking their chances at bracket racing.
Index racing seems to draw racers much easier than heads-up now days. When they run a 6.50 race at a local 1/8 mile track, 15-20 cars would enter. The 10.00 1/4 mile classes seem to do well also.
Just my
Scott
The problem with the promax stuff here around indy is NO ONE KNOWS about it. Its not advertised....its not talked about... no one hypes it up....there for no one shows up....
Ed is correct 100%...no Mopars play in this field....either they are scared to loose, or they are stuck on bracket racing....
Thats why i,m counting on you for next year...young buck,..You have a bad azz duster..,
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Re: Is heads up racing dead in the mopar world?
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11/21/10 04:49 AM
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I would have to say YES its dead.
ProMax Carbs tried to run Extreme street and Muscle Street classes at Mopar Nationals, and Monster Mopar in 2008 and 2009. These were basically muffler "street" classes with weight limits imposed to even out the big blocks and small blocks, broken into power added and non-power added classes. They got 4-6 cars between BOTH classes out of the 200+ cars racing at each event.
No way to get sponsors to support a prize purse in a class when only 2-3 cars participate.
Seemed no one wanted to spend $50 to enter a class when they thought someone was going to be faster. So one 9.80 all-motor car shows up and no other cars would enter the muscle street class.
The rules were fairly simple and I think they can still be found in the forums on the ProMax website.
KOS races did well in the late 90's and into about 2004. Then a few wicked fast cars were built, and everyone else seemed to be satisfied with taking their chances at bracket racing.
Index racing seems to draw racers much easier than heads-up now days. When they run a 6.50 race at a local 1/8 mile track, 15-20 cars would enter. The 10.00 1/4 mile classes seem to do well also.
Just my
Scott
Yup I remember in 09 at monster mopar only 4 of us showed up. Two in each class. Still was fun though. This year I just ran the 10.00 class and street eliminator. The 10.00 class was only $25.00. Maybe if the entry fee was cheaper and payout % dependant upon car count more would do it. Or just index racing like the 10.00 class just more options 12.00,11.50,11.00 ect and rules for street cars. Its all fun to me win or lose.
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Re: Is heads up racing dead in the mopar world?
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11/21/10 09:29 AM
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Definitely not many Mopars running heads up stuff here in Colorado. Myself and 4404Dart were the only Mopars I can think of here in CO for last year.
4404Dart won the championship in Ultimate Street! I came in third for Limited Street!
I am working on a 73 Duster for next year. BB/NOS combo for Limited Street. Hopefully more Mopars show up! I might be the only one next year.
Didnt 4404Dart just sell his car???
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Re: Is heads up racing dead in the mopar world?
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11/21/10 09:39 AM
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I would have to say YES its dead.
ProMax Carbs tried to run Extreme street and Muscle Street classes at Mopar Nationals, and Monster Mopar in 2008 and 2009. These were basically muffler "street" classes with weight limits imposed to even out the big blocks and small blocks, broken into power added and non-power added classes. They got 4-6 cars between BOTH classes out of the 200+ cars racing at each event.
No way to get sponsors to support a prize purse in a class when only 2-3 cars participate.
Seemed no one wanted to spend $50 to enter a class when they thought someone was going to be faster. So one 9.80 all-motor car shows up and no other cars would enter the muscle street class.
The rules were fairly simple and I think they can still be found in the forums on the ProMax website.
KOS races did well in the late 90's and into about 2004. Then a few wicked fast cars were built, and everyone else seemed to be satisfied with taking their chances at bracket racing.
Index racing seems to draw racers much easier than heads-up now days. When they run a 6.50 race at a local 1/8 mile track, 15-20 cars would enter. The 10.00 1/4 mile classes seem to do well also.
Just my
Scott
The problem with the promax stuff here around indy is NO ONE KNOWS about it. Its not advertised....its not talked about... no one hypes it up....there for no one shows up....
Ed is correct 100%...no Mopars play in this field....either they are scared to loose, or they are stuck on bracket racing....
Thats why i,m counting on you for next year...young buck,..You have a bad azz duster..,
Thanks Ed!
There is no way in h e l l you would remember me, but I would stop and pick your brain at every event I saw you at. We pitted next to on another at one of the events. I think it was Martin.... you tellin me about how you would take teh old aluminum rods out of your car, and toss them in your kids is one of the reason my street car has aluminum rods in it....
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Re: Is heads up racing dead in the mopar world?
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I'm a huge fan and participant of heads up racing. Never really liked the bracket or index racing thing.
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Re: Is heads up racing dead in the mopar world?
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To make a class winning Mopar you'll need lots of support from Mopar themselves. Right now, with all their emphasis on the customers and grass roots racing stuff I bet the right guy could do just that. Certainly wouldnt hurt to ask..once they see the exposure they get and positive reactions from fans for such relative little $$$ I bet they would start making better parts Drag radial or 10.5 outlaw car out of a new Challenger or any mopar would probably get their attention as long as you commit to a bunch of races.
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