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Re: stealth head cracked [Re: jbc426] #852876
11/16/10 01:34 PM
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With a few exceptions, Stealth heads only fool non-expert folks, who are almost all just as easily fooled by any of the other aluminum heads when painted with a good coat of Hemi orange. All it takes is a quick glance along the intake manifold or lower headbolt bosses for a Moparts member or a savy Mopar-knowledgable buff to spot the Stealths. Overall, for the money, they are a great head.


True but for the other 90% of the car guys "non-mopar" they think 318's are big blocks so if they do see a difference tell tell them its special mopar head desigh of a fuelie head




Yah, especially those 'big block" 318 poly motors. Here's a before paint shot of my Indy EZ's





...and here's a shot of my "stealth" Indy EZ's.





....and for the full effect. No cracks!


1970 Plymouth 'Cuda #'s 440-6(block in storage)currently 493" 6 pack, Shaker, 5 speed Passon, 4.10's
1968 Plymouth Barracuda Convertible 408 Magnum EFI with 4 speed automatic overdrive, 3800 stall lock-up converter and 4.30's (closest thing to an automatic 5 speed going)
Re: stealth head cracked [Re: jbc426] #852877
11/16/10 03:46 PM
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That does look nice, jbc426! Its really hard to tell with the brackets all on.

what valve covers are those?

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Re: stealth head cracked [Re: B1Fish540] #852878
11/16/10 05:50 PM
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Thanks! It did come out stealthy enough to fool the un-enlightened. DennisH traded me for those. I believe they are from a 1971, but I'm not sure.

I've even practiced my basic story line a bit, "Oh yah, it's stock other than headers, upgraded fuel system and MSD ignition. Why, did you want to race?"



1970 Plymouth 'Cuda #'s 440-6(block in storage)currently 493" 6 pack, Shaker, 5 speed Passon, 4.10's
1968 Plymouth Barracuda Convertible 408 Magnum EFI with 4 speed automatic overdrive, 3800 stall lock-up converter and 4.30's (closest thing to an automatic 5 speed going)
Re: stealth head cracked [Re: jbc426] #852879
11/16/10 07:27 PM
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Thanks! It did come out stealthy enough to fool the un-enlightened. DennisH traded me for those. I believe they are from a 1971, but I'm not sure.

I've even practiced my basic story line a bit, "Oh yah, it's stock other than headers, upgraded fuel system and MSD ignition. Why, did you want to race?"






How 'bout that? Mine's stock, too, 'cept for the headers and Pertronix...



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Re: stealth head cracked [Re: dstryr] #852880
11/16/10 08:13 PM
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Here's one that's really stock...... and, yes, they're the non crack American made version.........



If you can't handle the truth, you're living a lie.......
Re: stealth head cracked [Re: moparpilot1] #852881
11/16/10 08:23 PM
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It might be an old batch that has heat treat problems. Same thing happened to me, 440 source replaced the two heads. I was the original buyer from 440 source and I send pictures thorugh internet and the casting number, they replaced the heads and also paid the shipping cost to Peru. that was in the beggining of 2010, after the replacemnet of the heads I had no problems with the new ones. the car now runs consistently 9.80s in a 512 big block(customer car)

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Re: stealth head cracked [Re: cbarracuda] #852882
11/16/10 09:29 PM
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We have discussed this before on other threads. We did have ONE production run which had aluminum which was subject to the cracks. It has never happened before or since. We have extended the warranty from our normal 45 days to almost two and a half years for those who had issues with cracks from that one production run.

The OP does not mention he bought the head in question on 08/13/2008, well over two years ago.

Re: stealth head cracked [Re: 440sourcedotcom] #852883
11/16/10 09:50 PM
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so which "batch" were those brandon? i bought a set of the first ones avalable, can i look forward to cracks as well as the host of other issues i have had?

good to see your keeping up your customer service, not your fault, they are 2yrs old.

Re: stealth head cracked [Re: 440sourcedotcom] #852884
11/16/10 10:06 PM
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Hey Brandon,

Is there some kind of identifying mark, or # on that particular production run?? I bought a set from you through Scott at "Mopar Mafia" Racing 2 years ago. I picked them up along with a few other pieces at Norwalk OH. at The Classic race.


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Re: stealth head cracked [Re: chrisf] #852885
11/16/10 10:38 PM
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up date from 440 source today they are going to take care of both heads didn't realize the other one was starting to crack untill today and yes it was older set of heads like above post said bought 8-13-08 car was in process of being restored and was not started untill 8-10

Re: stealth head cracked [Re: moparpilot1] #852886
11/16/10 10:58 PM
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my olso was and older set bat car fist rums was in the beggining of 2010

Re: stealth head cracked [Re: 440sourcedotcom] #852887
11/16/10 11:52 PM
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We have discussed this before on other threads. We did have ONE production run which had aluminum which was subject to the cracks. It has never happened before or since. We have extended the warranty from our normal 45 days to almost two and a half years for those who had issues with cracks from that one production run.

The OP does not mention he bought the head in question on 08/13/2008, well over two years ago.




Wow!!!45 day warranty

Re: stealth head cracked [Re: Challenger 1] #852888
11/17/10 10:46 AM
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So I guess you have to buy Stealth heads the day you intend to start driving the car! LOL!!!!
Get what you pay for???????????

Re: stealth head cracked [Re: cbarracuda] #852889
11/17/10 10:53 AM
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my olso was and older set bat car fist rums was in the beggining of 2010



Are you trying to say you got your originals in 2010 or the new ones?

Re: stealth head cracked [Re: Dodgem] #852890
11/17/10 11:11 AM
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So I guess you have to buy Stealth heads the day you intend to start driving the car! LOL!!!!
Get what you pay for???????????






so your saying that with any other manufactorer you can buy their stuff, put it on a shelf for 2 years and its still under warranty because you didnt use it?? LOL...good luck with that!


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Re: stealth head cracked [Re: jbc426] #852891
11/17/10 11:34 AM
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Thanks! It did come out stealthy enough to fool the un-enlightened. DennisH traded me for those. I believe they are from a 1971, but I'm not sure.

I've even practiced my basic story line a bit, "Oh yah, it's stock other than headers, upgraded fuel system and MSD ignition. Why, did you want to race?"






That's a 70/ very early 71 valve cover.

Re: stealth head cracked [Re: 9SecRoadRunner] #852892
11/17/10 11:46 AM
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So I guess you have to buy Stealth heads the day you intend to start driving the car! LOL!!!!
Get what you pay for???????????






so your saying that with any other manufactorer you can buy their stuff, put it on a shelf for 2 years and its still under warranty because you didnt use it?? LOL...good luck with that!




does your sig line apply here also ???

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Re: stealth head cracked [Re: Challenger 1] #852893
11/17/10 11:52 AM
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We have discussed this before on other threads. We did have ONE production run which had aluminum which was subject to the cracks. It has never happened before or since. We have extended the warranty from our normal 45 days to almost two and a half years for those who had issues with cracks from that one production run.

The OP does not mention he bought the head in question on 08/13/2008, well over two years ago.




Wow!!!45 day warranty




You should read edelbrock's warranty on parts. They will void the warranty if "You" fuse the part for racing

As long as the company stands up for their product and makes it right thats what matters in the end and as far a 440S goes 2 plus years they extend the warranty and still exhanged for the guy thats great!!!

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Re: stealth head cracked [Re: JohnRR] #852894
11/17/10 11:56 AM
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....to think that a part under warranty will stay under warranty for years after the purchase because you never got around to using it is ridiculous...if the place you bought it from does warranty it then I see that as pretty dang good customer service....I wouldnt say its a fact JohnRR...more of just being COMMON SENSE

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Re: stealth head cracked [Re: JohnRR] #852895
11/17/10 12:10 PM
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I have a set of stealths and they have not cracked after a full summer of driving (purchased in 09). That being said, there is no reason a new cylinder head should crack, so I agree those heads should be replaced, especially since there is a batch out there with the same problem. If it was an isolated incident, and two years after purchase...different story.

As for the appearance (one of the big selling points for me), you have got to be kidding me that they are easy to detect. If you are looking that closely to notice the difference, maybe you're spending a little too much time picking apart ones engine. The average Mopar joe will not notice the difference at normal glance...

And those referencing their awesome 40+ year old stock (non-crack) heads - if your heads are ported to flow anywhere in the neighborhood of a Stealth head, you might not want to be too confident about the no crack thing.


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