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stealth head cracked #852816
11/13/10 09:20 PM
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head cracked from one of the spark plug holes to a head bolt hole called them almost 2 weeks ago waiting for a answer if they are going to warranty it had about 500 miles on them anybody else have them crack and did they warranty them thanks

Re: stealth head cracked [Re: moparpilot1] #852817
11/13/10 09:34 PM
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Bend,OR USA
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One of the local Mopar engine builders used a set and had problems with them cracking, 440 Source replaced both of them, if I'm remembering correctly Call them again


Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)
Re: stealth head cracked [Re: moparpilot1] #852818
11/13/10 09:38 PM
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Almost called you yesterday to see how you made out. I guess you haven't heard back from Brandon yet. Hope everything works out.


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Edelbrock headed 408
5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.38@138.67


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Re: stealth head cracked [Re: pittsburghracer] #852819
11/13/10 09:46 PM
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Is this an old or new batch of heads ?

Re: stealth head cracked [Re: IcorkSOAK] #852820
11/14/10 02:46 AM
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I know of 3 sets that cracked.


-Dustin
67 Dart, 9 second, 392" G3 Hemi
68 Barracuda 340 F/SA
Re: stealth head cracked [Re: Triple Threat] #852821
11/14/10 06:18 AM
11/14/10 06:18 AM
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Marysville, O-H-I-O
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why are they cracking? too much power? un-true surfaces being clamped down causing too much flex?
or are they simply too brittle?

anyone done any analysis on them to find out why they've cracked?


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Re: stealth head cracked [Re: 70Cuda383] #852822
11/14/10 08:43 AM
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FT Campbell, KY / Clarksville,...
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Posts like this make me very nervous! I have a set of cnc stealths Im putting on my 493.

Don


Street/Strip 73 Barracuda
Re: stealth head cracked [Re: moparpilot1] #852823
11/14/10 10:38 AM
11/14/10 10:38 AM
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Florida-West Coast
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Any pics?

Re: stealth head cracked [Re: The Cuda Guy] #852824
11/14/10 10:42 AM
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Florida-West Coast
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Posts like this make me very nervous! I have a set of cnc stealths Im putting on my 493.

Don




You should probably not use those, PM me I might take em off your hands, just to help you out.

Re: stealth head cracked [Re: Thor500] #852825
11/14/10 10:51 AM
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Down South
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Guy here had a brand new set crack and blow head gaskets on the same run. They sent him new heads and told him to torque them to like 55ft.lbs. Said they dont need to be torqued like a set of Edelbrocks or Indy's. To me that says the material must be cheaper quality and softer...??? For what its worth, he did torque them to 55ftlbs. and they are working fine....for now.

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Re: stealth head cracked [Re: DaKuda] #852826
11/14/10 11:11 AM
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I have been running a 3rd revision set on 2 different 10 second engines for 3 years.
So let's hear from everyone who had no issues.

Re: stealth head cracked [Re: DaKuda] #852827
11/14/10 11:11 AM
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Marysville, O-H-I-O
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Quote:

Guy here had a brand new set crack and blow head gaskets on the same run. They sent him new heads and told him to torque them to like 55ft.lbs. Said they dont need to be torqued like a set of Edelbrocks or Indy's. To me that says the material must be cheaper quality and softer...??? For what its worth, he did torque them to 55ftlbs. and they are working fine....for now.




if they were softer, they wouldn't crack, they would deform, warp, bend, etc. soft metal does not crack, hard metal does.


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Re: stealth head cracked [Re: DaKuda] #852828
11/14/10 11:17 AM
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Quote:

Guy here had a brand new set crack and blow head gaskets on the same run. They sent him new heads and told him to torque them to like 55ft.lbs. Said they dont need to be torqued like a set of Edelbrocks or Indy's. To me that says the material must be cheaper quality and softer...??? For what its worth, he did torque them to 55ftlbs. and they are working fine....for now.




Wonder why he didn't tell customers that from the start.... Then say send em back and only torque new ones to 55!


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Re: stealth head cracked [Re: moparpilot1] #852829
11/14/10 01:30 PM
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i had a set crack a couple of years ago. both heads cracked badly, and in the same places. my guess is the heat treat was incorrect. 440source sent new heads, and it made it through a full season.


for what is the good life if not doing things thoughtfully?
Re: stealth head cracked [Re: maximum entropy] #852830
11/14/10 01:52 PM
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you guys could have bought some eddy's and been way ahead of the game. enjoy the chinese quality.....

Re: stealth head cracked [Re: Quicktree] #852831
11/14/10 01:58 PM
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you guys could have bought some eddy's and been way ahead of the game. enjoy the chinese quality.....




I told this to good friend along time ago! you can find real good used eddy rpms all done up and ready to go! I did off here a few years back and they were an awesome deal! fully ported/mildon valves k motion roller setup! he didnt listen though as he was in a hurry to get parts to be laying around till he had the rest of parts to finish engine


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Re: stealth head cracked [Re: Quicktree] #852832
11/14/10 02:20 PM
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you guys could have bought some eddy's and been way ahead of the game. enjoy the chinese quality.....




I have Indys on my race motors. I bought Stealths because I can paint them and they look totally stock. IF they made Eddies that looked stock on the outside I would have bought them in a second.

For now the Stealth is the only game in town if you want aluminum heads that look stock. It wasn't really a price thing with me, it was the visual appeal they have for my resto cars. I will say though that they are getting new valves, springs, keepers, and a thorough going through before they get bolted on my engine. I essentially bought them for the casting.

-Dave


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Re: stealth head cracked [Re: GTSDave] #852833
11/14/10 02:33 PM
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Here's the suggested solution straight from the foundry...


Re: stealth head cracked [Re: moparniac] #852834
11/14/10 02:35 PM
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Quote:

Quote:

Guy here had a brand new set crack and blow head gaskets on the same run. They sent him new heads and told him to torque them to like 55ft.lbs. Said they dont need to be torqued like a set of Edelbrocks or Indy's. To me that says the material must be cheaper quality and softer...??? For what its worth, he did torque them to 55ftlbs. and they are working fine....for now.




Wonder why he didn't tell customers that from the start.... Then say send em back and only torque new ones to 55!





My Stealth heads came with specific torque instructions that said 60 ft/lbs with ARP lube, or 70 ft/lbs with 30 wt. oil. I was using 30 wt., so went to 70 lbs in (3) incremental steps. No problems here. These were shipped to me in Dec. '09, have approx. a thousand miles on them now, with plenty of trips to 6500 RPM, no issues.

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Re: stealth head cracked [Re: Quicktree] #852835
11/14/10 02:43 PM
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you guys could have bought some eddy's and been way ahead of the game. enjoy the chinese quality.....






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