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Re: Anyone using Rotella Diesel oil in their musclecars? [Re: GO_Fish] #84384
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I know when i run rotella in my cummins it smells bad. I can smell it in my cab and in the flumes.I run Delvac in my cumins.


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Re: Anyone using Rotella Diesel oil in their musclecars [Re: hulmule] #84385
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Yes I use 15w 40.

Re: Anyone using Rotella Diesel oil in their musclecars [Re: 68Bullit] #84386
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What about the Chevron Delo 400? It's the same weight, but is it the same or better than the Rotella? And as far as the weight goes, is there really a big difference in the 10W and 15W?



Chevron Delo 400 LE 15W40 actually has more zinc than Shell Rotella T 15W40. I don't remember exactly, but it's above 1300 ppm zinc. At least 1200 ppm zinc is best for a flat tappet cam. I suppose 1150 ppm zinc (approximate) is OK, such as Shell's Rotella T's, for a stock engine or a mildly built engine. That's up to the individual to decide.

Shell Rotella T 5W40 full synthetic has about 1400 ppm zinc.


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Re: Anyone using Rotella Diesel oil in their musclecars [Re: Junky] #84387
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Thanks Guys, new 440 here it comes

Re: Anyone using Rotella Diesel oil in their musclecars [Re: 300_dup5] #84388
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Thanks Guys, new 440 here it comes




6-7 year old thread?

Re: Anyone using Rotella Diesel oil in their musclecars [Re: Challenger 1] #84389
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Thanks Guys, new 440 here it comes




6-7 year old thread?




Don't worry, oil additive packages haven't changed in the last 6-7 years.

Re: Anyone using Rotella Diesel oil in their musclecars [Re: B5 Bee] #84390
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Diesel oil will foam at high RPM.

Call Rotella and ask them if it is suitable for your application.

Re: Anyone using Rotella Diesel oil in their musclecars [Re: Challenger 1] #84391
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Thanks Guys, new 440 here it comes




6-7 year old thread?




For the last 30 years all I've used in everything from a brigs and Stratton to my 605 Hemi is shell rotella 15/40 HD diesel oil. Never had an oil related engine failure with it.Dave

Re: Anyone using Rotella Diesel oil in their musclecars [Re: quickd100] #84392
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For the last 30 years all I've used in everything from a brigs and Stratton to my 605 Hemi is shell rotella 15/40 HD diesel oil. Never had an oil related engine failure with it.Dave




Same here. Muscle motors even used Rotella when they dynoed my 526 Hemi.

Re: Anyone using Rotella Diesel oil in their musclecars? [Re: hulmule] #84393
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I know when i run rotella in my cummins it smells bad. I can smell it in my cab and in the flumes.I run Delvac in my cumins.




Yeah, I can vouch for that smell. I used it a couple of times in my '02 CTD. And I will probably use it when I finally fire the motor in the Ramcharger (it has been dormant since 2012 and it does not look to good for 2015). That 440 has a hot Comp hydraulic and I don't need lifter problems.

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Re: Anyone using Rotella Diesel oil in their musclecars? [Re: Polarapete] #84394
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I found this compilation last year searching for updated oil/zinc info, found it helpful.

Re: Anyone using Rotella Diesel oil in their musclecars [Re: NITROUSN] #84395
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Last year when we rebuilt my 440, the engine builder recommended it and that is all I have used. Its a driver and so it very rarely seem RPMs over 4,000.

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Re: Anyone using Rotella Diesel oil in their musclecars [Re: Steve Bryant] #84396
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My engine builder recommended it (30 wt.) for cam break-in
and VR-1 10W30 for use after that. This with a 284/.484 hydraulic.
6200 RPMs max.

15 dyno runs later, no blow-by and good looking cam lobes.

Of course, viscosity choice is clearance and oil pressure
dependent.

Joe

Re: Anyone using Rotella Diesel oil in their musclecars? [Re: pinkduster] #84397
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I am using it with a comp 509 cam and eddy heads with their springs. I do put a bottle of richard petty's STP additive (which had a lot of zinc for an additive) to get 6 qts.. I bought a bunch of bottles of this petty stuff when big lots was clearing it out for $2 a bottle. Whether or not it helps, who knows, but it's been working.

Re: Anyone using Rotella Diesel oil in their musclecars? [Re: pinkduster] #84398
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Nope....Bradd Penn at breakin and down the road

Re: Anyone using Rotella Diesel oil in their musclecars? [Re: terzmo] #84399
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Don't use the CJ rated oils. They are for 07.5 and newer diesels with the particulate filters and have zippo for ZDDP. Use a CI rated if you want to use diesel oil and make sure its not combo'd as CI/CJ.


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Re: Anyone using Rotella Diesel oil in their musclecars? [Re: Polarapete] #84400
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I know when i run rotella in my cummins it smells bad. I can smell it in my cab and in the flumes.I run Delvac in my cumins.




Yeah, I can vouch for that smell. I used it a couple of times in my '02 CTD. And I will probably use it when I finally fire the motor in the Ramcharger (it has been dormant since 2012 and it does not look to good for 2015). That 440 has a hot Comp hydraulic and I don't need lifter problems.




I use it all the time, my truck even leaks oil and yet I never noticed any kind of smell


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Re: Anyone using Rotella Diesel oil in their musclecars? [Re: Silver70] #84401
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I didn't really notice it until I relocated the puke tank on my '01 Cummins, but right after an oil change it does have a weird smell. Kind of an acidic smell. It seems to go away after a while...maybe as the oil gets some miles on it.

I always run Rotella in my truck, but I use Valvoline VR1 race oil in my cars.


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Re: Anyone using Rotella Diesel oil in their musclecars? [Re: CKessel] #84402
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Don't use the CJ rated oils. They are for 07.5 and newer diesels with the particulate filters and have zippo for ZDDP. Use a CI rated if you want to use diesel oil and make sure its not combo'd as CI/CJ.




I think Rotella and Delo 400 CJ-4s have about 1200-1300 ppm of zinc. I've been running it for years as have many others.

Re: Anyone using Rotella Diesel oil in their musclecars? [Re: pinkduster] #2390920
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Reviving an old post; what's the attractiveness of the 20W-50 weight of the VR-1 Valvoline. I've had it recommended to me by very experienced Mopar mechanic, and I know a lot of wise Mopar people who like it. I'm just wondering, aside from the Zinc content, what's the advantage of the weight?

Would you recommend that weight in my stroked 360, hydraulic roller cam, Florida temps, no racing, just some occasional heavy footed street driving?


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