Re: 1970 T/A 340 timing issue
[Re: 70TA]
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10/12/10 02:22 PM
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It sounds like your cam gear for the distributor is off a tooth. You may need to pull it out and move it a notch. If this is the case,you should be able to get the timing back within the marks and set it properly. If thats not the case,check the timing chain for play by using a 1 1/4 inch socket on the harmonic balancer bolt.
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Re: 1970 T/A 340 timing issue
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10/12/10 05:32 PM
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No such thing as being a tooth off on a mopar..
the intermediate shaft drops in and has a slot.
you can move the intermediate shaft to where ever you want the distributor no. 1 to point to as long as the rotor is pointed to 1 on the cap...
now if your distributor body is giving you a problem as far as the vacuum advance hitting something...move the intermediate shaft and realign the distributor..
get a large screw driver and turn the slot clockwise the gear will go up the cam gear...then move it....it might that a couple of tries since the gear will slide down the cam gear and not point to where you want it to
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Re: 1970 T/A 340 timing issue
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10/12/10 05:55 PM
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Thats what I was saying,he may have to reindex the distributor drive gear on the camshaft to get the distributor to point at number 1,with the number 1 cylinder at top dead center on the compression stroke. This should get the timing to be within the 10 degrees plus or minus indicator on the crankshaft. This way he can time the car correctly. Maybe his timing chain jumped a tooth.
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Re: 1970 T/A 340 timing issue
[Re: Mopar_Country]
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10/12/10 08:05 PM
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What Mopar Country said. Pull #1 plug and bump the starter at the starter relay w a screwdriver until w your thumb on the plug hole you feel compression building then w a 1&1/4" socket/breaker bar continue turning it CW by hand until the marks are at 10 BTDC. pull/index the intershaft/gear & mock it up so it locates the rotor forward and slightly to the pass side. W the vac can roughly where you want it (has room to be turned both ways) then turn it slightly more one way or the other so the nearest reluctor tooth is lined up dead on w the magnet. The cap terminal above where the rotor is now is #1 of course and wire it CW from there. I'd have the dist medium snug so you can set the initial where you want it when it fires then lock it down. And for rotor phasing the rotor tip should be fairly close to the underside of the cap terminal that's now #1 and note that vac adv will shift phasing CCW (on a SB) from that point. (it'll move the rotor tip more CCW as eng vacuum increases) so ideally you want the rotor blade slightly CW from dead centered under the cap terminal but that's a seperate issue but might check it while you are on it. EDIT read your post halfway down, You installed a new MP dist & now it's acting up? compare The phasing of the rotor blade to the slot on the other end from the old dist to the new MP one.
Last edited by RapidRobert; 10/12/10 08:52 PM.
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Re: 1970 T/A 340 timing issue
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10/12/10 11:11 PM
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Quote:
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Maybe his timing chain jumped a tooth.
Would it even run like this?
Anyone??
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Re: 1970 T/A 340 timing issue
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10/13/10 12:36 AM
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yes, it would run, but his timing will either be severely advanced, or retarded, depending on which way it was off. i dont know why he cant find tdc, and just wire the cap to the rotor, starting with wire 1, and work his way around, as mentioned. it should fire right up, never mind what the timing marks say. get the slug up top, find the rotor and wire it.
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