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Switching to Electronics racing and need help!!! #822555
10/05/10 05:52 PM
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I'm going from No Box racing to Box racing next year and I need some suggestions for equipment. I have a small block Aspen that runs 10.10's at 133 mph and I want to run Super Street at 10.90 I'll need an a new shifter with an air shifter setup. I'll also need a delay box/air shifter controller. A throttle stop is in order as well. I'm just wondering what you guys are using for shifters, controls, and throttle stops. Also, what else may I need??? Thanks in advance!!!

Re: Switching to Electronics racing and need help!!! [Re: 1976 Aspen] #822556
10/05/10 06:17 PM
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I love the ratchet shifters for street/strip cars, but I do have to admit the PPP shifters are one of the nicest air/electric shifters for race applications



You will likely find the site divided between the Biondo delay boxes and the K&R boxes. I personally own two K&R's and would recommend them to anyone.



Dedenbear has the best throttle stops in my opinion, and are mostly what I see in the finals when filling out contingency forms.



Both the Biondo and the K&R boxes have timers to control the throttle stop, so no additional controller is required. Most MSD boxes are equipped with RPM switches to control the shifter, or the delay boxes can shift on a "time" basis rather than RPM. If you have a 6al you will need an MSD 8950 RPM switch for the shifter.



(FYI - NHRA forbids having a wire connected to the "TACH" connection on any delay box (Mega400 and Mega450 boxes in particular) which prevents the box from being able to be used to operate the shifter on RPM. Hence, the need for the RPM switch).

Re: Switching to Electronics racing and need help!!! [Re: 1976 Aspen] #822557
10/05/10 06:26 PM
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K&R delay boxs are good. Thats all we put in our cars, i'm not sure if other ones have little toggles or not, but the k&r's have them and it makes it easy to change #'s even with ur gloves on.
Never had a prob. with one either.

Re: Switching to Electronics racing and need help!!! [Re: goody340g] #822558
10/05/10 06:37 PM
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i like my biondo (digital delay) box and stop.. you dont have to go to an air shifter elec. will work just fine. i use a quarter stick and a hurst elec.shifter set up. always works great.

Re: Switching to Electronics racing and need help!!! [Re: Chris Vanover] #822559
10/06/10 11:04 AM
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I have used the Biondo Mega 200 box for years, trans brake and throttle enhancer along with turbo action shifter/ air
never have used the throttle stop plate. the car is very consistent
fyi the Biondo tech line has been very helpful.

Re: Switching to Electronics racing and need help!!! [Re: Rodney] #822560
10/06/10 11:19 AM
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I use a Biondo Mega 450 box and love the way it works. Whatever you get make sure it will do multiple things, such as operating the stop, shifter and an SLR. As for shifters, lots of options. I personally have a Pistol Grip Quarter Stick in mine with a Dedenbear air shifter. Never any issues with it. PPP is IMO the best piece out there, but just dont see the need for me. I use a Big Bore Dedenbear air stop with 4 blades. My car spends a LOT of time(4.8-5.0)on the stop to run S/ST. Many folks like the #1 stops and you will find a lot of them on the "hitters" cars. Also the new stop being built by Sunset looks nice.

Good luck with making your decisions and with running S/ST. We have a blast running S/ST I really like the challenge of keeping the car on the number. Great group of guys as well.


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Re: Switching to Electronics racing and need help!!! [Re: Al_Alguire] #822561
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I use Biondo Mega 450, for the Main operations it has many funtions that can be set up for any upgrade in systems that you may run in the future.

Shifter is Pro Bandit with Dedenbear air Clinder. with any system that you may run getting it wired the correct way is the key. relay seperate feeds from relay with inline fusing. 30a stuff.

Good luck and learn how to let go of the button...

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Re: Switching to Electronics racing and need help!!! [Re: Super Scamp] #822562
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Re: Switching to Electronics racing and need help!!! [Re: MegaDart] #822563
10/06/10 06:01 PM
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I have a Hurst V-Matic 2 ratchet shifter and I'm using a reverse manual valve body. Is there a way I can make something work with that???

Also, I'm really leaning towards a Dedenbear Command Center 3 to run everything.

Re: Switching to Electronics racing and need help!!! [Re: Super Scamp] #822564
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Quote:

I use Biondo Mega 450, for the Main operations it has many funtions that can be set up for any upgrade in systems that you may run in the future.



Good luck and learn how to let go of the button...




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