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Re: 10.02 @ 139.02 ... the black Road Runner goes FASTer
[Re: CrAzYMoPaRGuY]
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10/05/10 08:15 PM
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You are close. In Stock Eliminator traction devices like Cal Tracs can be used. That along with slicks you can plant the tire, and make the chassis work much different then trying to hook a bias ply street tire. When you can make the car hook, you do not need a ton of front end rise. Look at all ProStock cars and SS/AH cars. The front ends are tied down, becauase they do not need the front travel for weight transfer.
And as for a SS/AH motor cloned as a FAST motor... Throw a stock looking intake manifold, exhaust manifolds, and couple Carter carbs, and see what kinf of HP that stock stroke makes.
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Re: 10.02 @ 139.02 ... the black Road Runner goes FASTer
[Re: CrAzYMoPaRGuY]
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10/05/10 08:22 PM
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That is what I am trying to get to here, as the name of the class is "factory appearing stock tire". So if the changes are for safety as in a roll cage I can see why they let Lane make the changes. But if it is to make it safe after modifying the stock suspension for additional travel I think they may have shot them selves in the foot. Thats just my opinion.
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Re: 10.02 @ 139.02 ... the black Road Runner goes FASTer
[Re: CrAzYMoPaRGuY]
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I don't think he has any addition travel. I think the bumpsteer parts are probably to correct a situation similar to this:  It appears to be severe toe-out at full suspension droop. This is a '70 model, but you get the idea.
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Re: 10.02 @ 139.02 ... the black Road Runner goes FAST
[Re: CrAzYMoPaRGuY]
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S.W.F.A.S.T. Some-what factory appearing stock tire.  Sorry, but crazy is right. I don't like it, but hey, as stated, its their class and sanctioning body--not mine. I agree with wize too, but the carb I worked on for a guy was correct for a 428 , not sure if the 429 was the same. The rear bowl supply line was no more than 1/4 inch. I would "almost" bet my car there is NO WAY you could run 140 mph with that. Everything aside though, these cars are awesome. (and the plymouth should be allowed one blaring none-stock performance enhancer just to shore-up this little indiscretion), 
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Re: 10.02 @ 139.02 ... the black Road Runner goes FAST
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Lane's Mustang is a 1971.
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Re: 10.02 @ 139.02 ... the black Road Runner goes FAST
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Lane said he would give up 75 cubes if he could run a set of hemi heads,dual quads and exhaust manifolds.Dave and the other racers don't have problems with Lanes car.It has a factory 429 CJ block heads and intake just like the other racers.I think every make has some advantages and some disadvantages.The 429 CJ has a cube advantage .As far as the carb it is legal with a single inlet with the dual feed bowls like the factory.Lane knows the carb is holding the car back some and a dual quad would another 50 hp.
They must have made an internal fuel circuit to feed the rear bowl. If they did, or didn't, outstanding. 
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Re: 10.02 @ 139.02 ... the black Road Runner goes FASTer
[Re: dannysbee]
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10/06/10 12:34 AM
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Jeez...what is the deal about the front suspension. Its all stock, except for something that helps the seriously bad bumpsteer issue, like the pic shown in this thread. So what if it has more travel than stock. You think some of the other cars don't have trimmed stops, or whatever it takes to make more travel.
Anybody here ever owned a Mustang, Falcon, Maverick, or any Ford with those shock towers. What about a Chevy II. If you have, you know the front suspension is junk, even if new and needs help, to be stable at much of any speed, much less 140. The steering box, drag-link, tie rod setup on a Mopar is much better and does not have serious bumpsteer issues, even at full droop. If you are complaining about correcting something that could be dangerous, you are really reaching for an excuse
As far as the rear carb bowl supply line, that is just fine. No internal mods or anything else needed. Exactly how much fuel you guys think it needs.
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Re: 10.02 @ 139.02 ... the black Road Runner goes FASTer
[Re: CrAzYMoPaRGuY]
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10/06/10 02:08 AM
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I love the class ,but if they are running that fast then it seems the only thing to do is limit cubic inch to factory production, don't get me wrong here ,I love to see them do what they are doing ,but the only way to slow them down across the board is to limit cubic inch BEFORE some one gets hurt ....9.80s 140 mph ..those cars are awesome ....but how safe/unsafe are they???
I actually was thinking the same thing. Keep the cubic inches at factory sizes, that might bring the speeds down and keep things a tiny bit safer...
I really do not believe that is an answer but I do believe that it is a start. These guys are really figuring things out and doing such an outstanding job they just crossed into new territory. Things will get too wild I think not to change the rules significantly. On the other hand if they are policing them selves and the class is making money who am I to say anything? Money talks. Good luck to all the F.A.S.T. racers and give'em hell Dave!!!!!
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