Re: what the story on dragstrips
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09/28/10 10:46 PM
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Ok...I wish I could say it was my idea...but here it go's. Dunn Tire in Lancaster NY has a deal one night a week that local radio "shock jocks" host...They have a burnout contest...and it costs $5 to make a pass down the track...thats for each pass..IE 6 passes costs you $30. The admission is free and half the time they run out of beer and food.....THEY MAKE MORE MONEY THAN THE REGULAR RACE NIGHTS>>>>>BY A BUNCH......I would suggest that to every track....brings new people to the sport too.
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Re: what the story on dragstrips
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09/29/10 04:29 AM
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i run at irwindale in california, and they run a test & tune every thursday. we the racers build own bracket race called king of the hill. we take 16 cars maximun and each driver kicks in $20.00 dollars. with a purse of $320.00 to the winner. usually the same group of drivers each week and we like to split the winnings in the final. good affordable racing.
OK - so your race doesn't cost the track anything in pay out, but its also doesn't make them any money. So where is the incentive for them to keep the track open? 16 cars at test-n-tune entry price - that ain't covering the power bill.
Most thursdays id say theres around 100 cars @ $20 a car and $10 a person, always a big crowd plus food/drink sales.
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Re: what the story on dragstrips
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09/29/10 12:49 PM
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My local track, Milan, hit a goldmine in the last few years. They have a monthly NO E.T race. $40 to race, $15 for spectators, and no purse. The racers set up their own races for however much $$ they want, and the clocks are turned off. They will use the tree, a flagman, whatever the racers want. I have been to the last two, there were easily 200 cars and 2000 people there and the concession stands were making a killing.
Dennis
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Re: what the story on dragstrips
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09/29/10 01:10 PM
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In eastern Missouri there is a new track being built. Mid America Raceways Too, located in Eolia, MO. 30 miles north of I-70 on Hwy. 61. Head to Wentzville on I-70 and go north. Track is supposed to open in June 2011.
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Re: what the story on dragstrips
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09/29/10 02:07 PM
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Monte, your points are well taken, and true. The professional climate today does not allow for match racing, as you and I remember it. The cost is too high, and with all the national events the schedule is too full. I suppose it's a natural progression....
That being said, I do think that the lack of big name match racing has hurt these local tracks badly. The biggest pure spectator crowds that I can rembember at old Keystone Raceway Park (now PRP), Beaver Springs, and the rest were on nights where there was a Sox-Jenkins match, A Nicholson-Stiles, or things like that. I have pictures of those evenings here when the place was absolutely packed with spectators, who paid an extra ten bucks admission.
Those guys bought the big names to the people...to those who read about them but were not in a position to drive to Indianapolis or St. Louis. Since those days, nothing has come to fill the void.
I'm not sure what the answer is. Here in the east, the Nostalgia races draw big crowds and are money makers, and the tracks are fighting over them, and that's the one bright spot that I see. The bracket guys are self supporting, but will not draw a crowd by themselves....they can probably pay the light bill, but will not make a living for the operator. The problem with some of the booked n circuits is that folks are usually disappointed in the overall quality of cars...there will be one or two good ones, and a bunch of leakers. A couple of those and the paying public will not come.
I think, if I was promoting, that the key would be to have something for everyone. Maybe a booked in circuit once a year, special events for whatever niche' segment is out there. I am one of the few who believe that the faster bracket classes can draw a crowd, if marketed right. However, the electronics and the other stuff that make them cookie cutter cars would have to go, so that is not realistic, either. One or two of the IHRA style "Night of Fire" would probably work.
If there was a way somehow to get a Del Worsham or a Phil Burkhart, An Allen Johnson or a Greg Anderson to the local tracks that would be the answer. But, that isn't going to happen. On top it off, we do not participate in a politically correct sport, and that is another thing working against them.
It's a real dilemma. As much as I love this sport, I am not sure I would invest in a drag strip right now.
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Re: what the story on dragstrips
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09/29/10 02:48 PM
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My local track, Milan, hit a goldmine in the last few years. They have a monthly NO E.T race. $40 to race, $15 for spectators, and no purse. The racers set up their own races for however much $$ they want, and the clocks are turned off. They will use the tree, a flagman, whatever the racers want. I have been to the last two, there were easily 200 cars and 2000 people there and the concession stands were making a killing.
Dennis
That is what my local track needs to do.. But then you will need extra security...
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Re: what the story on dragstrips
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09/29/10 03:12 PM
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My local track, Milan, hit a goldmine in the last few years. They have a monthly NO E.T race. $40 to race, $15 for spectators, and no purse. The racers set up their own races for however much $$ they want, and the clocks are turned off. They will use the tree, a flagman, whatever the racers want. I have been to the last two, there were easily 200 cars and 2000 people there and the concession stands were making a killing.Dennis
I believe that this is one strategy that the track owners should consider. With the right amount of low cost advertising (intenet forums, auto part stores, machine shops, auto repair shops, emailing lists etc.) This could be profitable. In our area there is a group called "Altered Gas" who puts on an event called "The Flashlight Drags". Depending on the weather, location and advertising these events have been wildly successful. They format is similar to the program listed above except they are held on airport runways (down to one now) and a straightaway in a local road course.
In these cases there is no track prep, no timing equipment(just a lane win light), a girl starting the cars with a deer spotting light, plenty of grudge racing, lots of young folks racing their imports and domestics and a final "runoff" to choose the fastest domestic and the fastest import.
These events are packed and a blast. With a little advertising on the local radio stations and maybe a presence on Facebook, Twitter etc. with pictures of the winners and some recognition for the top participants I think the tracks could at least make some additional $ for organizing/hosting these events.
Street racing is where my interest(any many others) in this sport started. This type of event provides a format for the tradition to continue safely.
Throw in a special guest (ie. popular race/show car, band/musician, stunt show etc.) if the events are profitable/popular.
Open the concession stand and start making $.
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Re: what the story on dragstrips
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09/30/10 06:13 AM
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One of our local tracks did a $10 a carload night with Fuel Altereds, Pro Mods and other specialty race cars. They encouraged people to bring their grill and make a party out of it. So many cars showed up they had to park them on the access road leading to the track. I went to a baseball game today and it cost me and the wife $150. Try this: my son-in-law went to an NFL game and spent over a grand. Just give the folks a little bang for the buck. We are all watching our nickels. A night/afternoon at the drag strip can be a lot of fun. Any track owners ever thought of letting the average Joe in on this little secret?
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Re: what the story on dragstrips
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09/30/10 05:49 PM
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thank you guys for these responces it sounds as if we all have work to do to bring out the spectators and get our track managers involved better its our field of dreams to either win or lose this is a great example of ideas and explanation of how our sport is changing some good some needs great improvement
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