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Re: 440 engine identification... [Re: Alaskan_TA] #813765 09/26/10 06:07 AM 09/26/10 06:07 AM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 25 Ontario S speedracer4406 OP member
speedracer4406 OP member S Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 25 Ontario	build date for a 1970 is A12 from what I can make out on the fender tag. What is the date?

Re: 440 engine identification... [Re: speedracer4406] #813766 09/26/10 10:45 AM 09/26/10 10:45 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,092 A Banana Republic near you. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,092 A Banana Republic near you.	Quote: build date for a 1970 is A12 from what I can make out on the fender tag. What is the date? October 12 1969

Re: 440 engine identification... [Re: JohnRR] #813767 09/26/10 12:41 PM 09/26/10 12:41 PM
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speedracer4406 OP member S Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 25 Ontario	what must the engine build date be compared to the body build date?

Re: 440 engine identification... [Re: speedracer4406] #813768 09/26/10 01:01 PM 09/26/10 01:01 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,020 Pangaea B5 Bee master
B5 Bee master Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,020 Pangaea	My motor assembly date is earlier the car SPD. '70 Cuda, has the same SPD as yours, A12, 10-12-69, although it must have been built several days later, serial is 157xxx.. The F440 motor has an assembly date 5 days earlier than the SPD, 10-7-69.

Re: 440 engine identification... [Re: B5 Bee] #813769 09/26/10 01:06 PM 09/26/10 01:06 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Quote: what must the engine build date be compared to the body build date? So, what are your real goals in posting your questions here

Re: 440 engine identification... [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #813770 09/26/10 01:13 PM 09/26/10 01:13 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 104,346 Garden Grove, CA OzHemi Penguin-hating Ginger
OzHemi Penguin-hating Ginger Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 104,346 Garden Grove, CA	Quote: Quote: what must the engine build date be compared to the body build date? So, what are your real goals in posting your questions here

Re: 440 engine identification... [Re: OzHemi] #813771 09/26/10 01:33 PM 09/26/10 01:33 PM
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speedracer4406 OP member S Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 25 Ontario	Goals: 1: To learn what all these codes mean 2: To verify what the engine really is 3: To see if what I bought was a good purchase 4: To get ScottSmith Harms to invent a possible situation from their imagination that doesn't exist 5: Trying to find the narks on this forum.

Re: 440 engine identification... [Re: speedracer4406] #813772 09/26/10 02:07 PM 09/26/10 02:07 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Your doing well so far, not listing the entire VIN sequence does raise some questions though, sorry.' Quote: 1: To learn what all these codes mean 2: To verify what the engine really is So, do you normally go out and buy things you know nothing about?

Re: 440 engine identification... [Re: speedracer4406] #813773 09/26/10 02:19 PM 09/26/10 02:19 PM
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 9,336 South-Central (Sebring), FL Commando1 master
Commando1 master Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 9,336 South-Central (Sebring), FL	Quote: Goals: 3: To see if what I bought was a good purchase Is this engine for your 70 Charger 500 that you want to restore?

Re: 440 engine identification... [Re: Commando1] #813774 09/26/10 04:46 PM 09/26/10 04:46 PM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 25 Ontario S speedracer4406 OP member
speedracer4406 OP member S Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 25 Ontario	Thank you very much for all the assistant. You are a great resource of information. have a nice day.

Re: 440 engine identification... [Re: speedracer4406] #813775 09/26/10 04:57 PM 09/26/10 04:57 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,092 A Banana Republic near you. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,092 A Banana Republic near you.	Quote: People in glass houses should get dressed in the basement . To answer your question there is NOTHING set in stone as to how the engine assembly date corresponds to the SCHEDULED production date of the car other than it shouldn't be very long AFTER the SPD. But no matter how close the block is it will NEVER be the original engine .

Re: 440 engine identification... [Re: JohnRR] #813776 09/26/10 11:28 PM 09/26/10 11:28 PM
Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,912 Anchorage, Alaska Iceman01 Challenged
Iceman01 Challenged Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,912 Anchorage, Alaska	So how much meaningful help was provided to this guy? Can he now glean whether he can get away with what he had been contemplating? Until total honesty is on the table, we're not even talking about reality...

Re: 440 engine identification... [Re: Iceman01] #813777 09/26/10 11:51 PM 09/26/10 11:51 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Quote: So how much meaningful help was provided to this guy? Can he now glean whether he can get away with what he had been contemplating? Who knows, but allot of would be restamp artists out there come up short on knowledge when doing thier deed, and it nearly always shows in the results which makes my job easy when trying to verify original stampings. I'm not giving up any specific information to help them make their efforts less detectable that's for sure.

Re: 440 engine identification... [Re: Iceman01] #813778 09/26/10 11:51 PM 09/26/10 11:51 PM
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Alaskan_TA Fluffy Balladeer A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 29,657 Hamtramck, PA	Re-stamps are easy to spot, so if that is what he was planning, it can be caught sooner or later. A guy recently got over 80K back after contacting me about the car he had just bought. Dishonest people suck & there are folks willing to 'narc' them out.

Re: 440 engine identification... [Re: Alaskan_TA] #813779 09/27/10 01:46 AM 09/27/10 01:46 AM
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 9,336 South-Central (Sebring), FL Commando1 master
Commando1 master Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 9,336 South-Central (Sebring), FL	This thread took the strangest twist I have ever seen. I was joking about what the second question would automatically be. Never thought...

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