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ALLEN JOHNSON DQ'ED FROM NHRA O'REILLY NATS #804788
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http://www.competitionplus.com/drag-racing/news/15580-allen-johnson-dqed-from-nhra-oreilly-nats


Pro Stock car driver Allen Johnson has been disqualified from the O'Reilly Auto Parts NHRA Nationals, it was announced today
by NHRA officials.

Johnson registered a .027 reading on the alcohol breath analyzer during this morning's drug and alcohol test. NHRA has a zero-tolerance policy with regard to alcohol. Any driver or official discovered to have a measurable blood alcohol content during racetrack activities shall be immediately barred from any further involvement or participation in the event.

Johnson is subject to further disciplinary action as provided for in NHRA's Substance Abuse Policy. (2010 NHRA Rule Book: Section 1.7)

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Re: ALLEN JOHNSON DQ'ED FROM NHRA O'REILLY NATS [Re: 70AARcuda] #804789
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I just read this. <shakeshead>

Re: ALLEN JOHNSON DQ'ED FROM NHRA O'REILLY NATS [Re: 70AARcuda] #804790
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Well there goes the Pro stock Championship...... what are people thinking sometimes.... very unfortunate.

Re: ALLEN JOHNSON DQ'ED FROM NHRA O'REILLY NATS [Re: 70AARcuda] #804791
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If you know NHRA has a "zero tolerance" policy, don't drink, but I don't think anyone should be in too big of a rush to pass judgment on him.

The average man's BAC goes up .02% per drink (standard drink = one 12 oz beer @ 4.2% alcohol by volume, one shot of 80 proof liquor, or one glass of dinner wine). The same man also will burn off .02% per hour naturally.

Given those assumptions, Allen could have either gone to bed with a really high BAC (somewhere around a .20% depending on the time between his last drink and the test) after a night of drinking with his buddies and all of the alcohol had not burned off yet, or he simply woke up this morning and had a stiff Bloody Mary (or similar drink) that took his BAC up to the level it was at. Neither one is unusual behavior for a race track or race weekend.


Re: ALLEN JOHNSON DQ'ED FROM NHRA O'REILLY NATS [Re: Dart Racer] #804792
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Roy is probably ready to switch Allen's a**!!

Re: ALLEN JOHNSON DQ'ED FROM NHRA O'REILLY NATS [Re: Jared_Jordan] #804793
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Could have been the Lavoris,Scope or Listerine??


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Re: ALLEN JOHNSON DQ'ED FROM NHRA O'REILLY NATS [Re: 70AARcuda] #804794
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JOHNSON: "I HAD DRINKS WITH DINNER LAST NIGHT

http://www.competitionplus.com/drag-racing/news/15581-johnson-i-had-drinks-with-dinner-last-night

apparently he had 24 hrs to do the test but went the first thing in the morning...

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Re: ALLEN JOHNSON DQ'ED FROM NHRA O'REILLY NATS [Re: 70AARcuda] #804795
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I wonder if it could be contested with a blood-alcohol test? Heck, if one drank the night before and didn't eat anything early in the morning, a "burp" might cause a high reading! (or mouthwash, as mentioned earlier)

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Re: ALLEN JOHNSON DQ'ED FROM NHRA O'REILLY NATS [Re: Locomotion] #804796
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I'm sure the private firm that administers the test for NHRA takes precautions against exactly that sort of thing.

In CA, Title 17 of the California Code of Regulations requires law enforcement officers to observe suspected drunk drivers for 15 minutes prior to administering a breath test in order to eliminate the presence of so-called "mouth alcohol."

The forensic alcohol analysts with whom I've worked generally testify that drinking within a few minutes of the test, vomiting, regurgitating, or burping can produce a false reading. Within 5-6 minutes the mouth alcohol is usually gone.

I can't imagine that a private firm employed by NHRA wouldn't know this and take the appropriate preventative measures.

Re: ALLEN JOHNSON DQ'ED FROM NHRA O'REILLY NATS [Re: Jared_Jordan] #804797
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Was it random ?

Re: ALLEN JOHNSON DQ'ED FROM NHRA O'REILLY NATS [Re: Jared_Jordan] #804798
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This just sucks !!!! I get so tired of backing racers and sports figures that don't even care themselves. You knew the rules ! Way to let your fans down.


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Re: ALLEN JOHNSON DQ'ED FROM NHRA O'REILLY NATS [Re: Jared_Jordan] #804799
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Allen enjoys a drink here and there. I think he admitted having drinks with dinner. How late was dinner?

I have a zero tolerance where I work DOT and FRA. The FRA is a stricter 0 than DOT. Thought 0 was 0 huh.

I have watched fellow employees fail in the morning when they did not have breakfast. I had the same drinks but ate breakfast and blew 0. I have no pateince for drunks driving or working around me and the guys I worked with, I did not think were in that category.

.10 used to be Under the Influence in VA and you could get a DUI. That is now .080. CDL drivers is less but they say .00. If Allen blew a .027 I think this just stinks and wish he had had more to eat for breakfast. If it was .27 that is different, but it is not from what I am reading.

Sorry for the slip ALLEN

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Re: ALLEN JOHNSON DQ'ED FROM NHRA O'REILLY NATS [Re: Leon441] #804800
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I believe Allen said that there was 11 hours between dinner and the test. If he was a .027% 11 hours after drinking he had to peak somewhere around a .25% that night. He was having a good time and as long as he didn't drive afterwards, I don't have a problem with it.

He's not a bad guy. Just had one more drink than he should have the night before. Probably felt perfectly normal when he woke up.

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How high is .027? Would that equal one beer or one shot of liquor? What is the limit when you are stopped for possible DUI? Just trying to get an idea of how serious this is. I'm still an AJ fan!!


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Quote:

How high is .027? Would that equal one beer or one shot of liquor? What is the limit when you are stopped for possible DUI? Just trying to get an idea of how serious this is. I'm still an AJ fan!!




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Re: ALLEN JOHNSON DQ'ED FROM NHRA O'REILLY NATS [Re: MRMOPAR622] #804803
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In very general terms, a shot of 80 proof liquor (i.e. regular Smirnoff Vodka) or a 12 oz. 4.2% alcohol content beer (i.e. Bud Light or Coors Light) will take the "average man" up .02%. Obviously, this is dependent on the size of the man. I'm 230 lbs and I go up roughly .016% per drink. Allen is probably somewhere around 190 lbs (S.W.A.G.) and he'll go up right at .02% per drink.

So a .027% BAC is basically one drink.

In most states, to be convicted of DUI you need a BAC of .08% or greater. Allen was only 1/3 of the way there.

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A 180lb. man can drink two bears, two shots, or two mixed drinks and blow .08 and get a DUI. Most people can reduce their BAC by .04 every hour based on one drink. The more you have the longer it takes. The more you have and the more variables get involved.

Allen could have been checked after half a mixed drink and read this high .027. Everyone speaks of 12 hours after drinking he thought he would be fine and volunteered to test early. The folks who test us recommend not having over two drinks the night before. More than that and the hourly rate of reducing your BAC changes. Those last few numbers are the slowest to leave your system. .027 is a really low number. I would say if they tested everone they would have gotten more people but it is a random test. Some people do not get rid of alcohol as quick as others. If you drink more often I'm told that slows down you ability to get rid of BAC(Blood Alcohol Content). One less drink the night before and we would not be talking about this.

Allen is a standup guy and is not making excuses. He simply thought he was OK and went and took the test to get it over with. He had all day to do it.

Leon


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This is simple--

Alan was up late having beers or whatever and didnt eat after and/ or didnt eat breakfast in the morning.

How many of YOU GUYS have partied it up saturday night, camping, then get up at 7am to race sunday ???
you know dam well there will be alcohol on your breath.

no harm - no foul

this is BS on the part of NHRA

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Hey many of us could be guilty of that.....I was pulled at a NAT Race for a pee test once and was very nervous and very fortunate, cause a bunch of us were just having a good time the night B-4 playing Corn-Hole

It happens....sad to hear he got hit They have been on a tear this season....

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Quote:

This is simple--

Alan was up late having beers or whatever and didnt eat after and/ or didnt eat breakfast in the morning.

How many of YOU GUYS have partied it up saturday night, camping, then get up at 7am to race sunday ???
you know dam well there will be alcohol on your breath.

no harm - no foul

this is BS on the part of NHRA




No it's not BS on the part of NHRA.....the rules are the rules..

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