Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow!
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07/22/08 08:09 PM
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Captain Flapjack
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no apologies needed were all good im very happy that your open to CONSTRUCTIVE critisism (though the post i responded to wasnt to you, but to the poster of the boxed units) i know your striving for perfection + it requires alot of research, fact finding and an open mind (for all of us) and you hit the nail on the head where SOME things dont have an absolute answer, but others do earlier someone asked about why your valve stem extensions were in a clear bag + the ones they had from the correct era were in the correct era chry/parts b/w/b bag the reason why the ones you have are clear is because they are the assembly line samples that were in clear bags so the car dealer prep guy would see them + easily know what was inside of them so he wouldnt overlook installing them on the car ecs, i have a question im not 1000% sure, so please inform me if my assumption is incorrect, no ill will intended e-body rally dashes from 1970 to 1971 had different color woodgrain 1970 was lighter, more yellowish if you will and 1971 was a darker, more brownish yours looks to be the 1971 darker, but i know pics dont always reflect the true color of an item and btw, ecs's ebrake cables are correct, crazy as it sounds but yes 2 different types were used
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Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow!
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07/23/08 12:59 AM
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David Walden
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were alle-body rally dashes from 1970 to 1971 had different color woodgrain
1970 was lighter, more yellowish if you will and 1971 was a darker, more brownish
yours looks to be the 1971 darker, but i know pics dont always reflect the true color of an item
Thanks for your reply. All of the components in this dash setup are dated September and/or October of 1969. I used a process for cleaning the wood grain that made it look brand new. I think that is what you might be seeing but it is definitely correct for the model year of my car!
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Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow!
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#77406
07/23/08 08:12 AM
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DodgeMaterial
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Dave, I can't remember - are those NOS parking light assys in your Challenger gold or not? Can't tell by the pics. Dave
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Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow!
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07/23/08 08:25 AM
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cataclysm80
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Hi Tav, I have one set still in the valance and I cannot find one iota of gold coloring in the nooks or crannies.
Sometimes it can be found under the lens gasket. If not, would it be possible to paint strip a small spot of the silver paint?
I know you're really busy. (especially right now) Thanks for everything!
Tav
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Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow!
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07/23/08 08:31 AM
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cataclysm80
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Kind of hard to tell off of these used ones but there is zinc traces on some and others???
The ones your not sure about, could you check under the lens gasket or paint strip a small spot of the silver paint?
Tav
(I recommend repainting the silver before use anyway, so no big deal to paint strip a spot of it.)
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Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow!
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07/24/08 02:14 AM
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David Walden
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Dave, I can't remember - are those NOS parking light assys in your Challenger gold or not? Can't tell by the pics. Dave
Hint: You can find a pot of it at the end of a rainbow.
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Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow!
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07/24/08 02:16 AM
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Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow!
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07/24/08 02:21 AM
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ecs, i have a question im not 1000% sure, so please inform me if my assumption is incorrect, no ill will intended
e-body rally dashes from 1970 to 1971 had different color woodgrain
1970 was lighter, more yellowish if you will and 1971 was a darker, more brownish
yours looks to be the 1971 darker, but i know pics dont always reflect the true color of an item
Keep in mind that this is a new NOS complete dash assembly. How many of those have you seen? Most dashes that are original and nice enough to use are faded from years of exposure. Check out the date on the back of the housing.
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Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow!
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07/26/08 05:01 AM
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David Walden
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Dave I'm curious to know what you did about the glass in your car, did you use your current PPG reproduction glass or were you able to find NOS glass? Bruce
How about some pictures to answer your question? Thanks Bruce!
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Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow!
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07/26/08 05:02 AM
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David Walden
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Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow!
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07/26/08 08:49 AM
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Captain Flapjack
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ecs, i have a question im not 1000% sure, so please inform me if my assumption is incorrect, no ill will intended
e-body rally dashes from 1970 to 1971 had different color woodgrain
1970 was lighter, more yellowish if you will and 1971 was a darker, more brownish
yours looks to be the 1971 darker, but i know pics dont always reflect the true color of an item
Keep in mind that this is a new NOS complete dash assembly. How many of those have you seen? Most dashes that are original and nice enough to use are faded from years of exposure. Check out the date on the back of the housing.
hi not to be a negative nelly but instrument clusters werent sold as an assembly
so your housing is dated 1969 but that doesnt show what date all of the gauges + trim are/were dated
it looks great though!!
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Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow!
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07/26/08 11:45 AM
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David Walden
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instrument clusters werent sold as an assembly
so your housing is dated 1969 but that doesnt show what date all of the gauges + trim are/were dated
Who ever said that it was sold as an assembly? Many NOS pieces we used were pieced together to get the desired result. Could you please refer to the Chrysler drawing or references that specify this color change in the dash or is this simply an observation of yours? I wonder if there was ever any variation in simulated wood grain regarding color? Come to think of it, I wonder if every wood grain had the exact same pattern or if they might have even exhibited variations in their patterned look? I guess I need to take it out and find that slightly “lighter” color that you seem to feel more comfortable with. I think I might really be in trouble now!! Look at my door panel insert(s) in the attached picture. It appears the opposite was true concerning those. The NOS versions seem to be lighter than the ones that were original to the car and with a differing grain pattern. WOW! I guess I need to start throwing away ALL my NOS wood grain parts.
Those dog gone wood grain variations have to go and ruin everything!!
(Sorry to disappoint but it is positively a 1970 issue wood grain dash piece!)
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Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow!
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07/26/08 02:11 PM
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sixpaktoogo
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Here ya go beast. This might help to further illustrate the facts regarding woodgrain. The door insert that is ORIGINAL to my car is at the top. Notice how it is even darker than the dash face that you seem to question. Again I am sorry I can't disprove your sentiment concerning what you think is right or wrong here. It simply is what it is!
Hi Dave, Thanks so much for sharing all this needed information. Again, I hope you can put together a book, showing the complete restoration!
I have always questioned the reproduction tach faces, (whether they be decals or silk screening) that show the last numbers to be red. Most of the originals I have seen (even though sun faded) look not to have been red. Your NOS tach confirms that they should not be red?
Thanks, Dan
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