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Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow! [Re: Blues_Cuda] #77302
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Trunk mat looks like one of those old MCO reproductions from the late 80's.
Some people try to pass them off as NOS....I hope this isn't the case here


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Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow! [Re: anlauto] #77303
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Trunk mat looks like one of those old MCO reproductions from the late 80's.
Some people try to pass them off as NOS....I hope this isn't the case here





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Hey Alan....check out that "reproduction" grommet in the vent tube area with the white slash inspection mark. Not only is it factory issue, the mark is the one that a Chrysler employee put on the piece 39 years ago. Quite the intricate (trunk) detail for a project that you suspect might have over looked or settled for a "reproduction" trunk mat......you think?

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Trunk mat looks like one of those old MCO reproductions from the late 80's.
Some people try to pass them off as NOS....I hope this isn't the case here




Sorry Dave, after re-reading my post I think I need to explain....
I didn't think you were trying to pass the trunk mat off as a NOS piece and it wasn't....I meant that the old repros from the 80's look awful close to your NOS one....
I've seen a lot of people passing them off as NOS and selling them for large dollars.
I would hope that you didn't get caught up in that type of scam... I think your in-depth research would most likely prevent that from happening....

I guess this may be a good example of reading someones post two different ways...this time I can see where the confusion stems from Sorry


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Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow! [Re: ECS] #77306
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Hey Alan....check out that "reproduction" grommet in the vent tube area with the white slash inspection mark. Not only is it factory issue, the mark is the one that a Chrysler employee put on the piece 39 years ago. Quite the intricate (trunk) detail for a project that you suspect might have over looked or settled for a "reproduction" trunk mat......you think?




Do you have a "BEFORE" picture proving that YOUR trunk grommet had the same inspection mark made by the same guy 39 years ago?


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Do you have a "BEFORE" picture proving that YOUR trunk grommet had the same inspection mark made by the same guy 39 years ago?




That is the before and after picture. We simply took it out of the trunk, cleaned it and put it back after things were painted.

The question should really be.......do you have a picture proving otherwise?

Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow! [Re: ECS] #77308
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Another detail shot......

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Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow! [Re: Blues_Cuda] #77309
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Torsion bars

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Might I ask , if only 2 reproduction parts were used and I'm assuming these 2 are the carpet and package tray.

Who's brake , trans and fuel lines were used in this resto. What about the seat covers.

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I'd really like to know also, but I don't think we'll get that info till after the judging. Wouldn't want word to get around to the judges which 2 parts are repro and have points deducted. Just have to wait and see if the judges can find those two parts themselves.

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Might I ask , if only 2 reproduction parts were used and I'm assuming these 2 are the carpet and package tray.




Assume as you will.....I will never tell! I will say that the seat material you referred to is NOS to the tune of about $6000 for the headliner, seat cloth inserts, vinyl, seat belts AND hardware. I will have to admit that I used my seatbelt labels. Might that leave just one other item to be disclosed?

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Hi Dave,

The NOS material you bought... Wa sit from SMS or some other source?

*Car looks awesome BTW

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I actually bought two sets. The first one I bought from a guy in Tennessee actually made my interior and headliner for a 1971 Challenger!!!! Ruined all of my original material. I know Marty (owner of Legendary) and he, along with Dick Santo and Dan Smith, came up with original material for the seats and headliner. If they would not have found that last "bolt" of material I was going to have to spend $9,000 to have the blue salt & pepper stuff remade.

I expect what is going to happen next is that a few people (that never knew any of this) will proceed to tell me where things REALLY came from and how it is not the real stuff. I just hate it when a year and half of my effort is totally dismissed by someone who wasn't involved or aware but is eager to set me straight concerning the "real" facts!

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Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow! [Re: ECS] #77317
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Well Dave the reason I asked is because I bought some yardage from SMS (Legendary's only "NOS" material supplier as far as I know?). I decided to pick it up in person and was given a tour thier facilities. I was walked through thier (huge) inventory of material (on high racks full of bolts of fabric) and It was quite impressive. When I asked to see the "NOS" version of the patterns I was seeking he pulled it out and I looked it over. The material (a vinyl) had the correct grain for the application, however being familiar with how vinyl was produced now and then, I noticed a difference in the raw material it was made from and questioned just how "old" this NOS stock was? He admitted that they have it re-made to "NOS" specs (whatever that means)... So, as it turned out my "NOS" material was actually just reproduction material sold at an NOS price, I wasn't exactly impressed.

So, I'm sure what you bought will serve the purpose and look great regardless, but you might want to dig a little to see what it is that you actually bought if that is as important to you as it would be to me if it were my car.


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Scott my Man! I wasn't referring to you as the "Nuh Uh!" people out there. It is always a pleasure hearing from you and your input to these things. More than anything I was worried about the cloth and am positive that it is the correct original material. Same for the headliner. I thought I was absolutely clear as to what I wanted these guys to find but I will double check. (Thanks for the heads up.) You would not believe the trouble I went through to get the interior finished in this car. Even the welting cord was the different type that was originally installed between the material panels. They were never were an exact match (which is what you get with all the new repro interiors) from the factory!

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How about revisiting a subject from a couple of weeks ago. Does anyone like these stampings any better?




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I noticed on the torsion bars it appears to look like paint drips that have dried,is that what that is?I can also notice the paint run in the pictures.I know I have seen paint runs on original cars in the engine compartment but what I would like to know how much paint runs are you allowed according for concourse resto?My buddy also tried to duplicate the the factory paint runs that came on his 69 GTX.Nice detailing

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How about revisiting a subject from a couple of weeks ago. Does anyone like these stampings any better?








Sorry ECS I do,man you step up to the plate quick,those are sweet

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