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Re: The Mark Williams axle myth? [Re: Challenger 1] #766805
08/07/10 02:34 PM
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I called Mark Williams several years ago to order some steel caps for the 8 3/4, I ended up asking them about their axle splines and why it is different. The rep I talked to said that they make both spline angles now, 30 and 45 degree





more info.
MW 35 spline 45 deg pressure angle is 3% stronger than stock Dana 35 spline 30 deg.
Put a Moser next to Williams product.
NO comparison.






MW and Moser are not even in the same leaque, not even close. Moser products are fine for lower HP cars, but are hardly "hi performance"

MW stuff is way more advanced...and way better.

I have a Moser dana 60 in my street car and my race cars have all MW. I wouldn't trust my race car and my life to anything less.

There a reason MW cost more.




Well that's because you are a real racer. I don't know of any high HP cars running Moser anything. I get crapped on almost every time I use the "real racer" moniker but real racers know what I mean.

Re: The Mark Williams axle myth? [Re: BobR] #766806
08/08/10 02:15 AM
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Never found MW to have a performance advantage over Moser. I snapped the flange off a MW Dana 60 axle - called them and found a single axle cost more than a new set from Moser. Never have I broken a Moser axle, I can't say that about a MW. Maybe I'm not a real racer.

I am just thank full it was on the burnout, instead of on a full launch or at the top end. As it were, I only had to REPLACE a rim, tire, and rear 1/4 panel.

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Re: The Mark Williams axle myth? [Re: ProStDodge] #766807
08/08/10 07:30 AM
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people who use the term "Real" racers are azzholes....... I bet they were "Real" racers from day one huh!


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Re: The Mark Williams axle myth? [Re: ProStDodge] #766808
08/08/10 09:03 AM
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Never found MW to have a performance advantage over Moser. I snapped the flange off a MW Dana 60 axle - called them and found a single axle cost more than a new set from Moser. Never have I broken a Moser axle, I can't say that about a MW. Maybe I'm not a real racer.

I am just thank full it was on the burnout, instead of on a full launch or at the top end. As it were, I only had to REPLACE a rim, tire, and rear 1/4 panel.



Any other details about that axle?
Age, mods, beyond warranty?
Masterline or High Torque axles?
Thanks

Re: The Mark Williams axle myth? [Re: theclutcher] #766809
08/08/10 11:53 AM
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Thru-hardened 4340 "race" axles are as hard as a drill bit to resist spline twisting. Unfortunatley, flange breakage is fairly common.

Ductile 1541 "street/strip" axles are less likely to break the flange, but more likely to twist the splines.

I designed my 35 spline, 1541 street/strip axles with a decreased diameter along the length on the shaft to minimize the stress riser that occurs at the outside edge of the spline as the axle winds up under torque. In other words, the shaft is fully machined BEFORE heat treating to the spline's minor diameter. The spline protrudes from the shaft instead of being cut into a straight, pre-hardened blank.

Re: The Mark Williams axle myth? [Re: DoctorDiff] #766810
08/08/10 12:26 PM
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What I have is a 9" Ford with MW axles and I assume a MW spool. I have too much gear in the car and was thinking about getting a new 3rd member set up so I would have a spare with less gearing. The 3rd members from MW are $1000 more than Strange or Moser on comparable options. I was just curious to see if it was true that the MW axles wouldn't fit in any other spools. Thanks for all the info.


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Re: The Mark Williams axle myth? [Re: Jacob Pitt] #766811
08/08/10 03:52 PM
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You could install a Mark Williams spool in a Strange third-member.

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