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solid motor mount in a street car?? #761869
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okay, heres why I ask. My new Hooker Comps are really close (about a 1/16") to the steering box. When the car idles, the #5 tube rattles slightly against it. I know I can't leave it like this. I could put a ding in the headers, but I want to look at all options before I do this.

What about solid mounts in a street car? or... how about a solid on just the driver side? Will this solve my problem? This is a really nice street car, and I don't want it to be obnoxiously uncomfortable to ride in. How much will it vibrate and shake? It does have a 252* solid tappet cam, so its already sorta a handful at idle.

How would you guys handle this?


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Re: solid motor mount in a street car?? [Re: StealthWedge67] #761870
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i replaced the rubber on one of my engine mounts for a solid piece of steel, engine vibrations went up big time. nothing i couldn't live with but the g/f at the time b!tched like you wouldn't believe. don't think she cruised with me much after that, not that it was a bad thing.

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Re: solid motor mount in a street car?? [Re: rebel] #761871
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Can you get poly bushes for motor mounts? That way they'd be a bit stiffer but not transfer vibes like steel ones.
FWIW I've run moroso solid mounts and can't remember having too much of an issue.


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Re: solid motor mount in a street car?? [Re: Tig] #761872
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Had the same problem. Went with the expensive Schumacher mounts, and they weren't even close to the same size as the stockers, and the studs were too short as well so you couldn't even get lock washers on them. Those sit on the shelf now, and I made new solid ones. Much, much better. I didn't notice much change in the vibration, but I have a rougher idleing cam to begine with. Headers are a lot happier now and so is my air cleaner that used to hit the hood.


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Re: solid motor mount in a street car?? [Re: StealthWedge67] #761873
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I use one solid mount on driver side on my challenger and I can't tell any differance in vibration. I wanted it just to keep from ripping the rubber ones apart. Works for me

George..

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Re: solid motor mount in a street car?? [Re: plumridiculous] #761874
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If you're that close, it ding time regardless of what type of mount you use.

Re: solid motor mount in a street car?? [Re: plumridiculous] #761875
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I use one solid mount on driver side on my challenger and I can't tell any differance in vibration. I wanted it just to keep from ripping the rubber ones apart. Works for me

George..





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Re: solid motor mount in a street car?? [Re: Somerdale Flash] #761876
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I run elephant ears and a solid passenger mount for safety, and to support the 440 when the trans is out. the rotating assembly is muscle motors light weight bracket killer.
I have 0 vibration there is less idle rock in the car than when it was a stock 383.
good luck Jay

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Re: solid motor mount in a street car?? [Re: StealthWedge67] #761877
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I`ve been running a motor plate for years and love it(chicks do too ) Way better than a Harley.......... .252@ .050 is fairly lumpy but my .275-280 @ .050 is sheer fun.


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I have a solid mount laying in the garage and I plan to put it on the drivers side and see how it does in the vibration department. Ron

Re: solid motor mount in a street car?? [Re: StealthWedge67] #761879
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I've ran solid mounts and elephant ears on dozens of street cars, never noticed any more vibration whatsoever when swapped on any of them.


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Re: solid motor mount in a street car?? [Re: Somerdale Flash] #761880
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No difference all with just the one solid mount.

Re: solid motor mount in a street car?? [Re: Thumperdart] #761881
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(chicks do too ) Way better than a Harley..........






BAD BOY Td ... THAT comment is X-rated !!

Re: solid motor mount in a street car?? [Re: dOc !] #761882
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solid in dave's duster no prolems


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Re: solid motor mount in a street car?? [Re: StealthWedge67] #761883
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From my experience doing it on a couple of cars, even adding one solid mount on just the driver's side makes a noticeable increase in vibration felt. What I ended up doing is using Mighty Mounts (overpriced rubber mounts w/ travel restrictors) and adding a torque strap.

Re: solid motor mount in a street car?? [Re: BradH] #761884
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Schumacher adjustable torque strap and Moroso solid motor mount on the driver's side works for me!...not much vibration! My cam specs are 262@.050I and 266@.050E,Comp solid flat tappet.

Re: solid motor mount in a street car?? [Re: dOc !] #761885
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(chicks do too ) Way better than a Harley..........






BAD BOY Td ... THAT comment is X-rated !!


EXACTLY.....I`ve had women ask to sit in my dart while it was idling.....w/the seat cover off of course.


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Re: solid motor mount in a street car?? [Re: Thumperdart] #761886
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I've ran several cars with a solid mount on the left and rubber on the right. I have never noticed a vibration in any of them. Clutch actuation was much improved though.

Sheldon

Re: solid motor mount in a street car?? [Re: Dragula] #761887
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Quote:

Had the same problem. Went with the expensive Schumacher mounts, and they weren't even close to the same size as the stockers, and the studs were too short as well so you couldn't even get lock washers on them. Those sit on the shelf now, and I made new solid ones. Much, much better. I didn't notice much change in the vibration, but I have a rougher idleing cam to begine with. Headers are a lot happier now and so is my air cleaner that used to hit the hood.


I've just ordered a pair of Schumacher from Mancini Were there for small block? Can I make them to fit with modifications? How could they get away with it, advertising in all magasine for so many years if they are that bad?

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How could they get away with it, advertising in all magazine for so many years if they are that bad?




advertising dollars,lol

Joey

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