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Re: Estimated cost of shortening a Dana 60?
[Re: Whips 340]
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07/26/10 11:57 PM
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I believe the truck housings are much thicker and heavier than the cars. Since you will need axles and stuff, why not order the housing, axles etc. from moser and just used the gusts. this way you get a strong, built to spec unit. It's just a thought.
That's not a bad idea. This thing is incredibly, freaking heavy. It almost smote me moving that rear from my truck to my backyard.
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Re: Estimated cost of shortening a Dana 60?
[Re: RobX4406]
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07/27/10 12:34 AM
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Good ends $85
Welding it up $50-200
Axles $300+
Spool $125-220
Use the brakes off your current rear.
Nothing wrong with using that rear. The tubes are probably 3.25".
 And if it has a powerlock (not track-loc) you can probably remove it and sell it for a couple hundred bucks as they are in demand (they are rebuildable for cheap)....especially if it is 35 spline.
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Re: Estimated cost of shortening a Dana 60?
[Re: preddy]
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07/27/10 10:18 AM
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the car vs truck wgt difference is minimal or nothing, depending on year of truck and dia. of tubes. Still really nothing.
the big issue with the dodge housing is the solid spring perches (rot under perch) and the encapsulating lower clamp that causes corrosion(from debris between it and axle tube).
If the axle is to be narrowed, unless it is for something a bit less than abody width, the rotted section of tube is in proxcimity of the joint.
That being said, a rot free tube is has no issue.
someone with proper tooling, welding equip and skills, $200-$250 is fair imo.
someone doing it for $50 is either a favor or very hungry, would question someone giving me a quote that low.
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Re: Estimated cost of shortening a Dana 60?
[Re: theclutcher]
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07/27/10 12:58 PM
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someone doing it for $50 is either a favor or very hungry, would question someone giving me a quote that low.
The guy that does them around here for that price has done them for years and is just "keeping busy". There are a few guys on the board that use his rears, transmissions. He's just a really good guy.
He doesn't always do them for that. Depends on if the likes you and customer attitude...
I've got another guy that will do them for $125. He builds trophy trucks
Both have all the correct tools to do the job right.
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Re: Estimated cost of shortening a Dana 60?
[Re: RobX4406]
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07/28/10 09:30 AM
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For that $ you should have every axle from the surrounding boneyards bought, processed and to market like pork bellies.
sorry off topic... speaking of pork bellies, still into futures?
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Re: Estimated cost of shortening a Dana 60?
[Re: theclutcher]
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07/28/10 10:32 AM
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SPINDLE? is this a front dana housing? If so don't they run backwards?
it's ok to butt heads, just don't do it with a butthead
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Re: Estimated cost of shortening a Dana 60?
[Re: rowin4]
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07/28/10 10:39 AM
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SPINDLE? is this a front dana housing? If so don't they run backwards?
Heavy duty rears have floating axles with a hub that rides on a spindle.
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Re: Estimated cost of shortening a Dana 60?
[Re: Hemiroid]
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07/28/10 12:27 PM
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We have done them for $100 if the housing is already clean and gutted. Pretty easy if someone knows exactly how long they want to be and what the offset of the pinion needs to be. Just cut in the chopsaw remove the carrier caps install the spacers. Slide the rod through and put the ends on with spacers weld it. Your done. Usually we can make some money somewhere else like parts or on the housing ends alone.
If this an HD60 it will have 3/8 thick tubes instead of 1/4. That is a lot of weight. But, that is part of the strength.
Career best 8.02 @ 169 at 3050# and 10" tires small block power.
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Re: Estimated cost of shortening a Dana 60?
[Re: 70blackfish]
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07/28/10 10:09 PM
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I bet your closer then you think in needing a dana. a B-body in the 10"s is asking for trouble. you could sell your 8 3/4 while its still alive. the truck dana you have doesnt have any mounting holes for a pinion snubber. so you will need cal tracs.
Just my 
Just a note. My dana came from a Furd truck, has 3/8" tubes and no provisions for a pinion snubber. I ran it for 4 years with no snubber, leaving on the t-brake with ss springs. I did pretzel the spring perches though.... 
I have the tooling to narrow housings as well, and would do it very reasonably if it was a stripped housing and clean. If doing the whole job as well as figuring offset, price goes up.
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Re: Estimated cost of shortening a Dana 60?
[Re: Bigbeep]
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07/28/10 10:32 PM
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can aftermarket semi-float ends(strange or whoever) be put on a full-float housing? I'm not seeing if the ends are made for the larger tubes
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Re: Estimated cost of shortening a Dana 60?
[Re: JERICOGTX]
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07/29/10 11:51 AM
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My guy is $50... plus ends... car goes 9s... no problems with mine!  but Im sure if you pay more its better right? LOL 
Better? No, but the person doing the work is basically working for free once you figure, the welder isn't free, the jig isn't free, and the elctricity to run the welder isn't free... $200 is a fair price to do them in my opinion. I've done them in the past and it's not worth my time doing them for under $200.
Hes retired, and not looking to get rich, just paying his bills... He does my transmissions for dirt cheap too...  pretty confident its the same guy Rob is talking about, Ive turned alot of Moparts members his way... 
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Re: Estimated cost of shortening a Dana 60?
[Re: theclutcher]
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07/29/10 11:57 AM
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Get a hold of a Mark Williams catalog. Free education on what the big boys use.
How much $$$ you got?
After hearing about all the 50 buck weld jobs,
it is no wonder the junk Ive seen in all my aquaintences.
Another is the Dana set up for 50 bucks.
Diff falls out upon cap removal, pinion has 1/8" slop in housing or the checking distance is .025 off.
A favorite saying I saw on Frank Manzos funny car.
"YOU PAY PEANUTS, YOU GET MONKEYS".
Guess Im not one of the "big boys" but my peanuts are good for mid 9s leaving on the bottle... Ive always loved the mentality that if you pay more you get something better... Then again if I was a "big boy" and not a "monkey" Id run a FAB9 and ditch the Dana boat anchor...
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I know the guy and asked him what he was doing with it. He said he was getting ready to take it to the dump. I asked what was wrong with it and he said had a damaged spindle. Apparently the truck Dana's have an extended spindle in the hubs and somehow his axle damaged the spindle and he decided to replace his Dana in his truck and was tossing this one out. He asked me if I wanted it and I said "sure, I'd take it". It has 4:10s and limited slip (I think it's a power lock). When I got rear home, I measured the flange to flange distance and it's a couple of inches longer than the 8 3/4 in my 69 Road Runner. The spring perches are the same distance. So, while I have no plans to imminently switch to a Dana, I figured it might be nice to investigate how much it would cost to cut this one down and weld on new flanges and set it up for my B body. One day, I might need it if I decide to make some really big power. So assuming I can find a reputable shop, how much do you think it would cost do this? I'm just looking for a ball park figure to see if it's worth the effort. I realize I'd also need to factor in the cost of a spool, axles, and probably new perches.
